GOLD compass

[abdlam]

hi friends,
i will put here a useful device wich detects gold only and egnore all other minirals and vacuums or water and anything undesirable.
i had try it succesfuly and i hope you try it !
it contains of:it contains of:
50cm 4ml copper rod
or 33cm 4ml copper rod
without handl which as your hand size
front champer plastic fill of sand and 4 neodmuim magnatic pcs
it's size 5 ml
rear champer contaicns :
40 gm fine sand and coal ,table salt ,small sulphoe and ceramic pcs
which saved in plastic tape
this device is the result of long way of my looking for real thing
just try it and you will not feel failure>>>
good luck from abdlam
most regards

[Theseus]

Would you happen to have a theory as to how (or why) these particular ingredients and magnets will cause this rod to draw only to gold? :???:

[Dell Winders]

There is certainly no need for mundane theory if you have results. Adblam, claims results, and shows you how to make what he gets results with. What more can you ask? Try it! Dell

[Theseus]

There is certainly no need for mundane theory if you have results. Adblam, claims results, and shows you how to make what he gets results with. What more can you ask? Try it! Dell

In no way am I trying to debate/question the claimed results of Adblam.
Where did you get that idea? Are you speaking for or representing Adblam? :shocked:

Actual results could only be verified through peer review and/or a third-party testing agency. That could hardly be done here in an open forum.

The list of ingredients, quantities and placement in the capsules of the "chemical rod" shown, would suggest there is some relevance to an interaction between the items and the sought-after target - gold. I merely asked if there was some theory or physics/chemical principle that applied to the construction and materials. If there isn't one, than I suppose the ingredients are completely arbitrary, and could just as easily be dirt, baking soda or peanut butter. :rolleyes:

[Tim Williams]

Dell nice picture you have there! :D

[Esteban]

The only compass for gold I saw was used by a man. Is a needle (no magnetized) tip plated by gold floating in vaseline and water in a cristal glass. This old man found gold with it (he said) but movement is slow. No ideomotor effect here, he told. Wind no causes trouble, also... :)

[Mike(Mont)]

Abdlam, that rod looks somewhat similar to a PPL. I'm not sure about the table salt (sodium chloride), I've heard potasium chloride has some very slight radioactivity. As for the sulphur, it has some interesting properties especially related to electrostatics. The old electroscopes used sulphur as the insulator where the rod comes out of the jar.

[abdlam]

Abdlam, that rod looks somewhat similar to a PPL. I'm not sure about the table salt (sodium chloride), I've heard potasium chloride has some very slight radioactivity. As for the sulphur, it has some interesting properties especially related to electrostatics. The old electroscopes used sulphur as the insulator where the rod comes out of the jar.

hi dear,
there are more than 10 devices and ways to look for GOLD or metals but this device will make anyone happy by it's result.
i did not put it here to discuss theory or to win fame,no.
i put it here as apresent from me to anyone need real and true thing to findGOLD
i had try it more than 10 times and it proov
that ignore all of caves,underground water,any other mines or meatals and
also copper
.it points only when you find treasures or gold nugts
anyone in dobt just try to build it first,hide sample of things and test and i am sure you will find the good results.
i mean the soduim chlorid when i wrote table sult and i correct the sulpho : it is yellow ssulphore>>>

[Max]

The only compass for gold I saw was used by a man. Is a needle (no magnetized) tip plated by gold floating in vaseline and water in a cristal glass. This old man found gold with it (he said) but movement is slow. No ideomotor effect here, he told. Wind no causes trouble, also... :)

Hi,
are you sure the old man didn't use that vaseline in other ways ??? :lol:

Maybe some compass rod he put somewhere and then concentrate on gold statues! :razz:

Think about before you retry experiments... :D

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Hi,
are you sure the old man didn't use that vaseline in other ways ??? :lol:

Maybe some compass rod he put somewhere and then concentrate on gold statues! :razz:

Think about before you retry experiments... :D

Kind regards,
Max

Who knows!!! :lol:

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

Abdlam, that rod looks somewhat similar to a PPL. I'm not sure about the table salt (sodium chloride), I've heard potasium chloride has some very slight radioactivity. As for the sulphur, it has some interesting properties especially related to electrostatics. The old electroscopes used sulphur as the insulator where the rod comes out of the jar.

You can burn a lamp mantle in alcohol (but no drink this!!!) :lol: and use the thorium oxide as high radiactivity source. Prefer made in China mantles. If you have a pocket radiation detector you can select mantles. I found some plenty of radiactivity. Do you wish detect gold at some distance with electronics and radiactivity? Here your sensor (oh another idea!!!) ;) But be careful with this!!! Also Americium "attracts" gold, you can found this in old smoke detector. But this is more dangerous too!!!

[Mike(Mont)]

Potassium chloride is a sodium-free substitute for table salt.

As for thorium, I've read where some people cover the edge of a razor blade with a mixture of thorium and glue to make an emitter. Those lantern mantles can be bought on ebay. They can have a lot of radioactivity (and many times more if concentrated), enough to set off the red warning light on my dosimeter. Americanium is very dangerous--goes to tyour bones.

[Mike(Mont)]

Holding your hands around the glass with the floating needle is a different sensation. There is a capacitor effect between your hands.

As for getting the needle to point to a target, I don't know. Any water currents are going to affect it, like heat from your hands, etc. Maybe some baffles would help keep the water still. Seems you would need to degauss it or magnetize it so both ends are the same pole.

[Theseus]

...or magnetize it so both ends are the same pole.

That might be a rather cute trick. :lol:

[Max]

I still don't understand what a lantern matle or americium stuff has to do with LRL (apart nonsense :D)...

[Theseus]

I still don't understand what a lantern matle or americium stuff has to do with LRL (apart nonsense :D)...

Well... if I understand the posts above, where that stuff was mentioned, it appears we are supposed to believe that those things will physically attract (themselves) to gold. That being the case, I suppose someone has actually attached these things to an otherwise free-standing pivot contraption of some sort, and then observed said pivot device physically move towards gold that was brought into range.

Yeah.... right, I think that is the implication. I think also that no human element is required to cause said attraction, and hence no handheld ideomotor readout device would be required.

Well.... whatever..... :lol:

[abdlam]

Potassium chloride is a sodium-free substitute for table salt.

As for thorium, I've read where some people cover the edge of a razor blade with a mixture of thorium and glue to make an emitter. Those lantern mantles can be bought on ebay. They can have a lot of radioactivity (and many times more if concentrated), enough to set off the red warning light on my dosimeter. Americanium is very dangerous--goes to tyour bones.

thanks,but is there any danger when using neodemyium and tuch it by hand directly?
please , who has any information about that tell us,
regards

[Mike(Mont)]

It is my understanding that small magnets won't hurt a healthy adult. A good rule is never apply magnets to your head. If you are like me, when I hold a neo magnet I can feel something sort of like nerve twitches.

As for radioactive materials on a rod, there are different treories. One is that the tip of the rod is an emitter and the radioactive material enhances this effect. Do a google search for homebrew lightning detector.

[Max]

thanks,but is there any danger when using neodemyium and tuch it by hand directly?
please , who has any information about that tell us,
regards

Hi,
yes it's sure toxic and you must handle with care. Although there aren't public domain studies on neodymium contamination and related diseases you could expect this kind of effects if contamination is present:

-neural diseases
-eyes diseases
-skin diseases
-autoimmune diseases primer
-lung-embolism (cause of fine dust)
-cancer/mutagenic effects at higher rates

Good precautions are needed handling it (avoid bare skin contact or brushing your eyes after you touched it).

If dust of it is present in the environment use breather/mask for extra fine particles (this will save you from embolism at least)... though eyes and skin will be exposed and this will be a problem.

Avoid eating or drinking while handling/using neodymium compounds or parts... cause like with other metals like nickel you'll eat or drink it too if don't be really careful.

The last, if for higher contaminations and there are no official data of cancerogenicity or mutagenic activity of neodymium.

The fact neodymium was discarded from being a component in bio-alloys (e.g. for bone repair...) make me think there's diffused idea in the biomedical world that neodymium and its alloys are potentially strong mutagenic agents.

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Hi,
yes it's sure toxic and you must handle with care. Although there aren't public domain studies on neodymium contamination and related diseases you could expect this kind of effects if contamination is present:

-neural diseases
-eyes diseases
-skin diseases
-autoimmune diseases primer
-lung-embolism (cause of fine dust)
-cancer/mutagenic effects at higher rates

Good precautions are needed handling it (avoid bare skin contact or brushing your eyes after you touched it).

If dust of it is present in the environment use breather/mask for extra fine particles (this will save you from embolism at least)... though eyes and skin will be exposed and this will be a problem.

Avoid eating or drinking while handling/using neodymium compounds or parts... cause like with other metals like nickel you'll eat or drink it too if don't be really careful.

The last, if for higher contaminations and there are no official data of cancerogenicity or mutagenic activity of neodymium.

The fact neodymium was discarded from being a component in bio-alloys (e.g. for bone repair...) make me think there's diffused idea in the biomedical world that neodymium and its alloys are potentially strong mutagenic agents.

Kind regards,
Max

Good! So Abdlam, mantain the magnets just inside your rod chamber!

[Mike(Mont)]

The only danger from neo magnets I have heard of (for healthy adult) is if you swallow two of them they can get stuck in your intestines. They can pinch your fingers or splinter and get sharp pieces in your eyes. I'm not saying they are safe. I have real questions about extended exposure to magnetic fields. Anyone doing any work with magnets next to their body should read about it first. If the wrong polarity is applied tumors can increase in growth rate.

[WesP]

Can you site some VALID medical studies that showed that magnets cause accelerated tumor growth. What about MRI's? They are used as a diagnostic tool in cancer treatment and they certainly have a very strong magnetic field.
How would you determine which polarity of magnetic field would do you harm?
:rolleyes:

[Theseus]

Can you site some VALID medical studies that showed that magnets cause accelerated tumor growth. What about MRI's? They are used as a diagnostic tool in cancer treatment and they certainly have a very strong magnetic field.
How would you determine which polarity of magnetic field would do you harm?
:rolleyes:

I think you'll find all his facts(?) come from books located on the shelves of the Occult Library. ;)

As such, the value of such remarks must be discounted as having very little or zero significance.

[Esteban]

Good lecture. Resonant power source

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Resonant_Nuclear_Reactor

[Max]

Can you site some VALID medical studies that showed that magnets cause accelerated tumor growth. What about MRI's? They are used as a diagnostic tool in cancer treatment and they certainly have a very strong magnetic field.
How would you determine which polarity of magnetic field would do you harm?
:rolleyes:

Hi,
probably you don't understand what I write :rolleyes: ... I didn't say I have the documents but that he could expect these kind of effects, so I mean some of these are already well known and understud, like skin and eyes problems handling that stuff with bare skin or brushing eyes...

about cancer you will not find anything cause compounds and element are rare and their effects on health are still "unknown", but to the general public. I guess someone have studies on toxicity of neodymium in such a way (mutagenic/cancer effects) but will not provide you.

It's like 80years ago with asbestos fibers and compounds : it was largely used in the industry... not cause nobody had data about toxicity but just cause some diseases could be related to it just after 30-40years span statistical studies....

Wanna be a statitic too...? :lol: is up to you... me personally will not touch it with bare skin or eat just cause I need a sandwich in the middle of my magnet assembly session! :razz:

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

I think you'll find all his facts(?) come from books located on the shelves of the Occult Library. ;)

As such, the value of such remarks must be discounted as having very little or zero significance.

You are wrong: skin and eyes diseases caused by rare earth elements contamination are well known... maybe you think that cause neodymium magnets are so largely used in many fields they are not dangerous! :razz:

Oh yeah... what a philosophy man! Congratulations! :lol:

Also cobalt-60 is so largely used... in the medical field and not only... same for americium-241 that's widely used in smoke detectors... not to talk of torium in lantern matles... wow

Now try to apply your philosophy: make a good sandwich with powder of all them instead of table salt and then happy meal. :rolleyes:

In the industry or , generally speaking, if you have to sell stuff and it works somehow for the purpose that you need you sell it... with few matter if it's a public , silent and lethal enemy: think at benzene (benzol) as another example... yes it's good for gasoline stabilization stuff and, why not, making napalm too... but man... every time you breath some city smog you live something less cause of it.

Now, the situation with neodymium is not so critical... but why being stupid and taking risks ? :rolleyes:

And last... he asked ... I provided an answer... now if my answers are not good for you... ok... give me occultism titles :lol: but be careful before saying what I write is from occultism books (that sometimes is but not in this case).

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

And last... he asked ... I provided an answer... now if my answers are not good for you... ok... give me occultism titles :lol: but be careful before saying what I write is from occultism books (that sometimes is but not in this case).

Kind regards,
Max
Hi Max,

I think you've misread what Theseus was saying. ;)
It appears to me that the reference to occult books was directed at Mike(Mont), not you. Or am I the one who's confused?

[Max]

Hi Max,

I think you've misread what Theseus was saying. ;)
It appears to me that the reference to occult books was directed at Mike(Mont), not you. Or am I the one who's confused?

Hi,
yes probably I misread... ;)

I also was replying to wesp... but replyed to theseus... :lol: what a mess!

Kind regards,
Max

[WesP]

I never stated anything about ingesting anything.:nono: I ask about his statment that a magnetic field could cause accelerated turmor growth and that an MRI exposes you to a termendous magnetic field. I don't believe this to be true and would like to know his source.:| But for the record I don't believe that any of these LRL or dowsing rods work. They are good wallet miners. As they say "SHOW ME THE MONEY" or show me some proof. With all of these "PROFESSIONAL":lol: LRL treasure locator manufactures there must be one that can actually demonstrate that they actually work using accepted scientific methods.:)

[Theseus]

With all of these "PROFESSIONAL":lol: LRL treasure locator manufactures there must be one that can actually demonstrate that they actually work using accepted scientific methods.:)

I'm afraid not.

Mentioning LRL treasure locators in the same sentence with (conventional) scientific methods is a classic dichotomy.

[Mike(Mont)]

I got that from the book "The Body Magnetic" by Buryl Payne but I also saw a study a few months ago some university talking about the using the opposite pole for pain reduction, etc that mirrors Payne's work. Can't recall where I saw it but it could have been on CNN website. I ain't no biophysicist but magnetics plays a big role in cell division. Add to that other studies on cell phone usage. There's no doubt magnetic fields near the body can be dangerous.

[Theseus]

I got that from the book "The Body Magnetic" by Buryl Payne but I also saw a study a few months ago some university talking about the using the opposite pole for pain reduction, etc that mirrors Payne's work. Can't recall where I saw it but it could have been on CNN website. I ain't no biophysicist but magnetics plays a big role in cell division. Add to that other studies on cell phone usage. There's no doubt magnetic fields near the body can be dangerous.

A couple of other reports state.......

In the United States, mobile phones operate in a frequency ranging from about 850 to 1900 megahertz (MHz). In that range, the radiation produced is in the form of non-ionizing radiofrequency (RF) energy. This RF energy is different than the ionizing radiation like that from a medical x-ray, which can present a health risk at certain doses.

At high enough levels, RF energy, too, can be harmful, because of its ability to heat living tissue to the point of causing biological damage. In a microwave oven, it's RF energy that cooks the food, but the heat generated by cell phones is small in comparison.

A mobile phone's main source of RF energy is its antenna, so the closer the antenna is to a phone user's head, the greater the person's expected exposure to RF energy.

Many experts say that no matter how near the cell phone's antenna--even if it's right up against the skull--the six-tenths of a watt of power emitted couldn't possibly affect human health. They're probably right, says John E. Moulder, Ph.D., a cancer researcher and professor of radiation oncology at the Medical College of Wisconsin. It's true, he says, that from the physics standpoint, biological effects from mobile phones are "somewhere between impossible and implausible."

And from another source...

A huge study from Denmark offers the latest reassurance that cell phones don’t trigger cancer.

Scientists tracked 420,000 Danish cell phone users, including 52,000 who had gabbed on the gadgets for 10 years or more, and some who started using them 21 years ago.

They matched phone records to the famed Danish Cancer Registry that records every citizen who gets the disease — and reported Tuesday that cell-phone callers are no more likely than anyone else to suffer a range of cancer types.

Generally speaking, it appears exposure to the sun's radiation is probably more of a health risk than that from cell phone usage.

BTW, here is another book written by the same author: http://www.buryl.com/book_spin_force.htm

You be the judge as to the credibility of this author's theories and writings.

[Mike(Mont)]

Reports may decide what they will. The idea that a certain report is bible is very similar to religion.

[WesP]

Then there are the people who sell magnets that you wear saying that they improve your health! But what if you wear it backwards? Reverse polarity!!!Would it cause a tumor????

PT Barnam said it best "There's a sucker born every minute". Unless there are multiple double blind studies done to prove these gloom and doom theories I consider them all "Bull Sh?T". Right along with LRL's and dowsing.

[Theseus]

Unless there are multiple double blind studies done to prove these gloom and doom theories I consider them all "Bull Sh?T". Right along with LRL's and dowsing.

:cheers: Precisely!

You've just verbalized what the majority of us have known for many decades.

:nono: But let's not forget, whole business structures and elaborate marketing schemes have been predicated on the idea that it only takes a few technically-challenged individuals to fuel the livelihood of your basic LRL (wallet miner) scam artist.

At $695 to $3500 a pop, plus shipping (and a No Return Policy), that scammer can buy a lot of gas for his Hummer, even at today's prices. :rolleyes:

[Qiaozhi]

I'm :lol:afraid not.
You took the words right out of my mouth. ;)

Can't recall where I saw it but it could have been on CNN website.
Must be true then... :lol:

BTW, here is another book written by the same author: http://www.buryl.com/book_spin_force.htm

You be the judge as to the credibility of this author's theories and writings.
'nuf said... :razz:

[Mike(Mont)]

The north-seeking pole is really the south pole. Many/most magnets incorrectly have an "N" on the south pole but the "N" means north-seeking. The south pole stimulates and can increase tumor growth. I really don't care if you heed this or not.

I know a few dowsers who got tumors near where they had the magnets. Some dowsers advocate wearing a magnet on the side of your head. "Polarity doesn't matter." is what one guy said. He is still alive and the tumors in his brain have not killed him yet, but the other guy with the brain tumors is dead. I know another guy who had a tumor removed from his abdomen. His wore a magnet about at his belt buckle. None of them felt polarity is important. Dr.Payne did research at a magnetics group. This guy is no slouch. He graduated with a masters in physics and doctorate in psychology Magna Cum Laude. Hardly occult reading.

[Theseus]

The north-seeking pole is really the south pole. Many/most magnets incorrectly have an "N" on the south pole but the "N" means north-seeking. The south pole stimulates and can increase tumor growth. I really don't care if you heed this or not.

I know a few dowsers who got tumors near where they had the magnets. Some dowsers advocate wearing a magnet on the side of your head. "Polarity doesn't matter." is what one guy said. He is still alive and the tumors in his brain have not killed him yet, but the other guy with the brain tumors is dead. I know another guy who had a tumor removed from his abdomen. His wore a magnet about at his belt buckle. None of them felt polarity is important. Dr.Payne did research at a magnetics group. This guy is no slouch. He graduated with a masters in physics and doctorate in psychology Magna Cum Laude. Hardly occult reading.

Well, Qiaozhi, there you have it! That settles it for me, how about you? Now if Dr. Payne and Mike Healey can just convince the AMA of their findings we can start rewriting the medical books.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

On a more serious note, I wonder if Senator Kennedy is a dowser, and made the mistake of wearing a magnet in his hat.

[Max]

I never stated anything about ingesting anything.:nono: I ask about his statment that a magnetic field could cause accelerated turmor growth and that an MRI exposes you to a termendous magnetic field. I don't believe this to be true and would like to know his source.:| But for the record I don't believe that any of these LRL or dowsing rods work. They are good wallet miners. As they say "SHOW ME THE MONEY" or show me some proof. With all of these "PROFESSIONAL":lol: LRL treasure locator manufactures there must be one that can actually demonstrate that they actually work using accepted scientific methods.:)

Hi,
me too don't see any relationship between magnetic fields with that grow... I think it's something related to some bad advertising on cell phones and similar stuff... like microwave ovens... just theories and no facts. ;)

Though I know microwaves could have heavy effects e.g. on retina if some precautions are not employed (e.g. radar operators knows what to do and what not) there aren't reliable studies on other effects like the one of above... I think Mike(Mont) found some scary website about... maybe :lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Well, Qiaozhi, there you have it! That settles it for me, how about you? Now if Dr. Payne and Mike Healey can just convince the AMA of their findings we can start rewriting the medical books.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:
Hmmm... I can think of someone who may be wearing a magnet on their hat. ;)
It certainly seems to have scrambled a few brain cells. :lol:

By the way, don't you think it's strange that these "experts" have names that are vaguely related to medical terms - Payne (pain) amd Healy (healing)? Or is this a coincidence? :D

[Qiaozhi]

Dell nice picture you have there! :D
I think the word you're looking for is "smug".