Colorado Gold Sticks

[Rudy]

Ohh goodie, this one has LEDs !!!

"Gold was found first. If no Gold was in the area, it would then take us to silver, and titanium, and other precious metals. Many people call this witching, and other call it dowsing. "

I would call it fraud. :nono:

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[Ernie]

I am new to this forum. I try to keep my work and hobbies as professional as possible. I and going back through the posts and threads looking at what you all have been chatting about. I'm finding it a tad frustrating with threads/posts such as this stupidly childish one, which has not had a reply since posting. It's a bit like going to the toilet and lifting up the cover and finding someone else has left a mess in the bowl.
I'm asking as Carl is the administrator could he please try and clean up/delete threads or new threads that have never had a reply for over 6 -12 months?
Or better still add a bit of negetive feedback to the system (like an amplifier circuit) and if no post replies after 6 months have an automatic email sent to the instigator saying something like;
Dear member We have had NO REPLIES to YOUR thread dated (dd/mm/yyyy) - Maybe you should GO CLEAN THE TOILET and leave DETECTION WORK TO THE PROFESSIONALS!
Regards GEOTECH FORUM

No sarcasim ment Carl but i really dont want to join a circus.

kind regards and happy prospecting

Ernie

[Jim]

I am new to this forum. I try to keep my work and hobbies as professional as possible. I and going back through the posts and threads looking at what you all have been chatting about. I'm finding it a tad frustrating with threads/posts such as this stupidly childish one, which has not had a reply since posting. It's a bit like going to the toilet and lifting up the cover and finding someone else has left a mess in the bowl.
I'm asking as Carl is the administrator could he please try and clean up/delete threads or new threads that have never had a reply for over 6 -12 months?
Or better still add a bit of negetive feedback to the system (like an amplifier circuit) and if no post replies after 6 months have an automatic email sent to the instigator saying something like;
Dear member We have had NO REPLIES to YOUR thread dated (dd/mm/yyyy) - Maybe you should GO CLEAN THE TOILET and leave DETECTION WORK TO THE PROFESSIONALS!
Regards GEOTECH FORUM

No sarcasim ment Carl but i really dont want to join a circus.

kind regards and happy prospecting

Ernie

Better yet, just using the name Colorado Gold Sticks (or variations thereof) should bring instant banishment. What a joke

[Ernie]

Banishment? NO! Never! Every man deserves a castle of some kind. I feel like that little green thing in star wars (Yoda?) When he spoke to luke skywalker after he got his ship stuck in mud. Luke asked I'm searching for a great and strong and powerfull Master, and the tiny, ugly, green, little old timer said Mmmmm! Teach you I can!
Every man desires a castle and one thing i've learn't out of 30 years of mining construction is you build your fellow man UP not down!
If YOU continue through your life putting your fellow man down you will find youself, one day, banished to your own corner with little or no friends.
I think of a book called HOW TO BUILD FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE which is an excellent seller apparently, although i have not bought it, but basically describes possitive ways to communicate to others.
Which i think this forum needs attention to this subject, of possitive communication to others .

kind regards and happy prospecting.

Ernie

[Mike(Mont)]

The original Soundwitch was developed in the early 1990's. CGS is just a copy. Don't know if it was pirated, but it is not "Bran New" like the ebay ad claims. That is false advertising. You can buy a piezo tweeter for under $5 at Radio Shack. Just hook up a battery and you are ready to annoy your neighbors and yourself.

That said, some people are able to use this type of device but it is probably the worst LRL ever devised (Sorry Bill). It works if you aren't too arrogant and think you know it all. So that eliminates about 98% of the people on this forum. The inventor said you can hear a slight tone difference when you are on the signal line. I call it a "hearing blink". It's like the sound goes dead for an instant. At least my ear muscles have some kind of reaction that blocks out the sound similar to blinking your eyes.

You can hook up a loudspeaker to a frequwncy generator and get a much more accurate device. I even hooked up a sub-woofer with a built-in amplifier to an FG and it shook the whole neighborhood like Tesla's earthquake machine. Only ran it for a few minutes as it got the amp hot very fast. Don't recall if it was any more effective, really didn't have enough time to evaluate it.

[Ernie]

I don't know whether you (MIKE/MONT) sent that last post in error or if you diddn't? And if you sent it on perpose well i can only say your a DicHEAD!
I'm trying to join a semi professional forum, but I see a’lot of wasted time crap/backstabbing/clone stuff here. Good on you Esteban for your perseverance with putting up with it. Although you all seem to be (even you Eesteban ) of on a science wording TRIP! on very simple technology.

These systems are fairly friggin simple! You Carl would have to be a tad slow to suggest that the BIONICbl 01 blaa blaa blaa has an INTERNAL BLAA horizonaltal BLAAA BLAA level (or whatever you originally suggested) and is therefor a scam.
The main thought behind these FORUM detection systems is (MATTER) and YES MATTER REFLECTS! and once again MATTER REFLECTS! And again for the slow one's MATTER REFLECTS!
IF I met any of you in person, and had a referenece in my mind to say yes this is Carl/WM6/ESTEBAN/ETC,ETC i would have detected you. YES?
And, from what I can detect of this forum so far, is that you’re stuffing around with a system that could be put to good use.
From my 30 years of mining engineering & construction experience I can conclude;
The first thing with mining is not what are we going for?
No.1 is Safety first!
No. 2 What do you want to mine/detect/profit from? and Does it exist?

If this is a semi amateur forum so why don’t we set up a library/ system for uneducated junior members to work their way up. BUILD A MAN UP!

GO FORWARD FROM THERE.


kind regards and happy prospecting,

Ian (Ernie) Parker

[WM6]

Which i think this forum needs attention to this subject, of possitive communication to others .



Hi Ernie, probably you mean that your communication is an example of positive communication to others here?

Do you have a dinner with mr. hung?

[Fred]

Hi Ernie,
I see that you have just made your first step into the human society, where you can be confronted to opinions different from yours.
I hope you will soon meet the higher level, and discover tolerance :D .
I in no way agree with the scam devices supra-cited, but i defend freedom of speech.

[Ernie]

What are suggesting i'm *** or just saying that because your mum caught you dressing up in her panties and kicked you out to the back shed again.
Don't worry the girly mags are still in your hiding place. Your (or Dr Bests)) diagram of the IR laser and two recievers is rather friggin simple, why didn't you just explain it and stop crap like " it's a bio modulated magnetic responce that shakes the internal molecular structure" from clogging up this forum.
God help us! Who's the scam artist here!
PLAIN AND SIMPLE IT'S A FRIGGIN REFLECTING LASER (MATTER REFLECTS)
Ohh then i hear Esteban (NO OFFENCE ESTE) saying yes is FM like i have been building for over 20 years and there's another 100 posts laughing at him posted. YES ESTEBAN IS FM, THE OP AMP SWITCHES FROM LASER FREQ TO ZERO FREQ AS YOU MOOOVE THHEEE LLLASSSSEEERRR ACCCRROOSS TTTHEE TTTAAARRGGEETTT very wide bandwidth but FM. bw=0hz to IRhz
Cripes for so called GURU'S and SENIOR members you seem to be full of crap.
And if i might add please stop bagging Esteban and Hung they both have their own castle in their system and once again just for YOU WM6 my special needs member, MATTER REFLECTS, esteban and hung's system uses a FLAT transmission coil antenna which is directional The telescopic antenna is the reciever which POINTS to the TARGET
The signal is reflected off the target. yes yes MATTER REFLECTS

And once again WM6, mmmmm WM6, WM6, WM6 please put away that magazine and pay attention this class is just for you my special needs WM6
M. YES M. - is for MAAATTTTEEERRR REFLECTS
Now let's hear your say it?
Come ON Try it, i'LL say it with you MMMM, MMMAAA, MMAATT, MMAATTER,
REFLECTS! CLAP CLAP CALP!

That's all for this special needs class folks,
kind regards and happy prospecting
Ian (Ernie) Parker

[WesP]

It's obvious that Ernie Can't take a joke or maybe just can recognize one if he reads it. :lol: It's a good thing that matter reflects and that it also deflects BS.....:razz:

[WM6]

AS YOU MOOOVE THHEEE LLLASSSSEEERRR ACCCRROOSS TTTHEE TTTAAARRGGEETTT v
M. YES M. - is for MAAATTTTEEERRR REFLECTS
Now let's hear your say it?
Come ON Try it, i'LL say it with you MMMM, MMMAAA, MMAATT, MMAATTER,
REFLECTS! CLAP CLAP CALP!



Hi Ernie,

are you trying to say: "life is beautifull"?

[Jim]

It's obvious that Ernie Can't take a joke or maybe just can recognize one if he reads it. :lol: It's a good thing that matter reflects and that it also deflects BS.....:razz:

spot on!

[Mike(Mont)]

Ernie is trying to use slight of hand with the physics books as far as treasure hunting is concerned (matter reflects). Matter absorbs resonant energy and radiates it at a lower frequency, and this is what is important in dowsing and LRL's. Some people call it "field pressure" and this is what the dowser or locator senses. Some talk about a field membrane which is a nodal point/sphere where the polarity changes. This is the easiest to detect.

[Ernie]

Ernie is trying to use slight of hand with the physics books as far as treasure hunting is concerned (matter reflects). Matter absorbs resonant energy and radiates it at a lower frequency, and this is what is important in dowsing and LRL's. Some people call it "field pressure" and this is what the dowser or locator senses. Some talk about a field membrane which is a nodal point/sphere where the polarity changes. This is the easiest to detect.

"I think" Mike "the Guru" Mont is trying to describe a slide of hand trick he himself learnt back in the 1960's while flowing with free radiates on a life is beautiful flower picking acidic field trip that still lingers in the pressure of his membrane sphere where the bipolar polarity changes and is easy to detect.:lol:
What I would like in this forum is science facts like I=V/R or P=V2/r
Proposed experiment – If I insert a 1,000Hz signal into a resistor what frequency would I get out?
Ans: 1,000 Hz. A drop in ENERGY not frequency will occur and that energy has to go somewhere according to the conservation of energy law. Some (the drop) energy will be absorbed by the resistor and will be transferred and dissipated as heat (thermal energy).
So without hopping on Einstein’s light speed carriages and explaining relativity I will say that I think Mike maybe confused with a term known as the Doppler effect which is used for detection but for detecting the speed of moving targets by bouncing a signal off a moving target from the transmitter/receiver (observer). The received frequency is higher (compared to the emitted frequency) during the approach, it is identical at the instant of passing by, and it is lower during the recession. From the difference in TX and RX frequencies a speed can be calculated. Which I don’t think is relevant to this thread unless we wish to change the discussion and design a Remote sensing detector that will detect at what speed a women drivers, gold jewels, are travelling at while she speeds down the road to the latest shoe store sale.
So if I can go back to the original discussion, maybe what I should have said originally was PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE instead of matter reflects and I should have stipulated that the target was stationary relative to the observer.
This may hopefully give some thought on explaining how systems such as Esteban’s and Hung’s and Dr Bests LRL’s work and are not a scam but simple directional transmitters and receivers. Estebans has slightly confused everyone by his broken English in saying it uses FM. This system is not FM, Esteban is confusing receiving a minute amount of the same transmitted frequency which he nulls out via the threshold to no noise and calls it Zero Hertz instead of zero volts. When he points the detector at a target the resistance of the transmission path is lowered and gives him an increase in received signal energy strength. His system may be better described as Variable Path Of Least Resistance. Sellers of double D, etc, type detectors would of course describe it as a scam, even though these systems use similar methods only DD use magnetic flux flow instead of radio wave current. Substances have a type of magnetic flux flow resistance which is called magnetic permeability. But you can’t detect the ocean floor from a boat with a DD coil so according to the DD manufacturers anything else must be a scam. I think you should make your own mind up. I will end up on a happy note by agreeing with Mike Mont’s previous comment of, It works if you aren't too arrogant and think you know it all. So that eliminates about 98% of the people on this forum.”
Happy prospecting
Ernie

[Ernie]

In the previous correspondance I mentioned Path of least resistance,but overnight I thought I should have also said for the bipolar part of this forum The Parth Of Most Conductivity R=V/I AND CONDUCTIVITY = 1/R
Happy prospecting
Ernie

[Ernie]

It's obvious that Ernie Can't take a joke or maybe just can recognize one if he reads it. :lol: It's a good thing that matter reflects and that it also deflects BS.....:razz:
A Joke! Checkout the Billion dollars reward (Daniel Malcolm) thread. And, No i cant take a JOKE that was scammed by the Catholic Church. A SCAM that I put my life savings into while putting out my hand to help a fellow man to find his missing son, and only to be robbed of my wife, family, home, and just about everything, including my life. That is not a JOKE! The BS is reflecting from inside the Catholic Church.

Ernie

[Astrodetect]

What are suggesting i'm *** or just saying that because your mum caught you dressing up in her panties and kicked you out to the back shed again.
Don't worry the girly mags are still in your hiding place. Your (or Dr Bests)) diagram of the IR laser and two recievers is rather friggin simple, why didn't you just explain it and stop crap like " it's a bio modulated magnetic responce that shakes the internal molecular structure" from clogging up this forum.
God help us! Who's the scam artist here!
PLAIN AND SIMPLE IT'S A FRIGGIN REFLECTING LASER (MATTER REFLECTS)
Ohh then i hear Esteban (NO OFFENCE ESTE) saying yes is FM like i have been building for over 20 years and there's another 100 posts laughing at him posted. YES ESTEBAN IS FM, THE OP AMP SWITCHES FROM LASER FREQ TO ZERO FREQ AS YOU MOOOVE THHEEE LLLASSSSEEERRR ACCCRROOSS TTTHEE TTTAAARRGGEETTT very wide bandwidth but FM. bw=0hz to IRhz
Cripes for so called GURU'S and SENIOR members you seem to be full of crap.
And if i might add please stop bagging Esteban and Hung they both have their own castle in their system and once again just for YOU WM6 my special needs member, MATTER REFLECTS, esteban and hung's system uses a FLAT transmission coil antenna which is directional The telescopic antenna is the reciever which POINTS to the TARGET
The signal is reflected off the target. yes yes MATTER REFLECTS

And once again WM6, mmmmm WM6, WM6, WM6 please put away that magazine and pay attention this class is just for you my special needs WM6
M. YES M. - is for MAAATTTTEEERRR REFLECTS
Now let's hear your say it?
Come ON Try it, i'LL say it with you MMMM, MMMAAA, MMAATT, MMAATTER,
REFLECTS! CLAP CLAP CALP!

That's all for this special needs class folks,
kind regards and happy prospecting
Ian (Ernie) Parker
Hi Ernie
Ok I understand that matter reflects RF and I agree. But do you mean that BURIED matter also reflects? How does it reflect the laser beam since it is buried?
Can you please explain as you understand the system works?
Regards

[simonbaker]

NC

[WesP]

Ernie,
I'm not following your deluded thought track..... I was referring to Dr. Best Laser LRL as the jole you didn't get and you go off on the Catholic church? Off your meds today?:lol:

[Esteban]

"I think" Mike "the Guru" Mont is trying to describe a slide of hand trick he himself learnt back in the 1960's while flowing with free radiates on a life is beautiful flower picking acidic field trip that still lingers in the pressure of his membrane sphere where the bipolar polarity changes and is easy to detect.:lol:
What I would like in this forum is science facts like I=V/R or P=V2/r
Proposed experiment – If I insert a 1,000Hz signal into a resistor what frequency would I get out?
Ans: 1,000 Hz. A drop in ENERGY not frequency will occur and that energy has to go somewhere according to the conservation of energy law. Some (the drop) energy will be absorbed by the resistor and will be transferred and dissipated as heat (thermal energy).
So without hopping on Einstein’s light speed carriages and explaining relativity I will say that I think Mike maybe confused with a term known as the Doppler effect which is used for detection but for detecting the speed of moving targets by bouncing a signal off a moving target from the transmitter/receiver (observer). The received frequency is higher (compared to the emitted frequency) during the approach, it is identical at the instant of passing by, and it is lower during the recession. From the difference in TX and RX frequencies a speed can be calculated. Which I don’t think is relevant to this thread unless we wish to change the discussion and design a Remote sensing detector that will detect at what speed a women drivers, gold jewels, are travelling at while she speeds down the road to the latest shoe store sale.
So if I can go back to the original discussion, maybe what I should have said originally was PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE instead of matter reflects and I should have stipulated that the target was stationary relative to the observer.
This may hopefully give some thought on explaining how systems such as Esteban’s and Hung’s and Dr Bests LRL’s work and are not a scam but simple directional transmitters and receivers. Estebans has slightly confused everyone by his broken English in saying it uses FM. This system is not FM, Esteban is confusing receiving a minute amount of the same transmitted frequency which he nulls out via the threshold to no noise and calls it Zero Hertz instead of zero volts. When he points the detector at a target the resistance of the transmission path is lowered and gives him an increase in received signal energy strength. His system may be better described as Variable Path Of Least Resistance. Sellers of double D, etc, type detectors would of course describe it as a scam, even though these systems use similar methods only DD use magnetic flux flow instead of radio wave current. Substances have a type of magnetic flux flow resistance which is called magnetic permeability. But you can’t detect the ocean floor from a boat with a DD coil so according to the DD manufacturers anything else must be a scam. I think you should make your own mind up. I will end up on a happy note by agreeing with Mike Mont’s previous comment of, It works if you aren't too arrogant and think you know it all. So that eliminates about 98% of the people on this forum.”
Happy prospecting
Ernie

The tone into the FM maybe changes when IR transmitter (modulated in tone for to obtain the sound into the FM audio system) is focussed on the target. I notice that lead, for example, is a "cold metal" for IR, but copper, for example, is a "hot metal" for IR. FM per se (RF) maybe nothing to do in the detection. The respectable things is this: the target is exactly in direction of each IR leds, not in the antenna.

[Ernie]

Hi Ernie
Ok I understand that matter reflects RF and I agree. But do you mean that BURIED matter also reflects? How does it reflect the laser beam since it is buried?
Can you please explain as you understand the system works?
Regards
To explain i'll have to step back a few steps Think! that matter doesn't reflect o.k. It flows. If you stamp your foot on the ground some of the energy flows into the earth and some flows back into your eardrum. Once you understand that we can move to reflection ( Nuclear physics ) matter reflects! Or should i say it takes the path of least resistance. A suggestion to you is goto Wikipedia and lookup Alpha, Betta and Gamma Rays. (Also noise is very interestng, it comes in a variety of colours, white, pink, etc) I think of it as Mother earths chat room. Why does matter do this? You may ask. Because of the onion effect. The Earth has basically an onion effect, layer upon layer upon layer. While trying to describe it Sourcerers/Physisist have come up with the Newtonian way of thinking (yes after newton a great scourcerer) this way of thinking divides questions into not just four dimentional equations but goes one step futher and goes a futher dimention and 3D. In Newtonian thinking gold for example has it's layer in the earth (where it should be) but because of inpacts from other planets/meteores gold is not in it's layer and is now trying to get back to it's layer ( this is why it is heavy and lays at the bottom of a river ) I hope i'm not going too fast but i'll keep going with onion layers. If it was a perfect earth everything would be in it's layer (weather and weight), but it's not due to meteroreites etc so gold for example is very mixed up. Our Newtonian explanation is in Alpha, Beta and Gamma Rays Hopefully you can understand my explanation of some basics sorry if it isn't the best explanation.
EST! You may be getting confused with magnetic permability.(the resistance of substances to invisable magnetic flux flow) learn about at Wikipedia and get back to me.

[Ernie]

The tone into the FM maybe changes when IR transmitter (modulated in tone for to obtain the sound into the FM audio system) is focussed on the target. I notice that lead, for example, is a "cold metal" for IR, but copper, for example, is a "hot metal" for IR. FM per se (RF) maybe nothing to do in the detection. The respectable things is this: the target is exactly in direction of each IR leds, not in the antenna.

Sorry Esteban I was looking at your TX & RX IN this system the wrong way around. But this is what i mean by "Carl we need a referance" There is a science term to discribe "hot metal". It's late here and i have to work tomorrow so will post tomorrow night the "Term"

Ernie,
I'm not following your deluded thought track..... I was referring to Dr. Best Laser LRL as the jole you didn't get and you go off on the Catholic church? Off your meds today?:lol:

No wesp i dont take meds but i've almost crashed a few test aircraft lately.
This system that Esteban describes has similarities to a guidance system that i designed. When i switched it on in tests on one occasion it flew me 6.6 kilometers straight through thick jungle with speeds that i never thought i could go. With pinpoint accuracy! I have seem a similar system used by a man from New Zealand with much greater distance.
Happy prospecting
Ernie

[Seden]

Ernie,

Your point is noted. I would now like to hear what you feel is the best in new technology for locating precious metals in soil?

[Ernie]

Ernie,

Your point is noted. I would now like to hear what you feel is the best in new technology for locating precious metals in soil?




What planet?
Happy prospecting.
Ernie

[Seden]

What planet you ask my good fellow? Why planet earth of course! Ok, enough dodging let's have your ideas please.

[J_Player]

What planet you ask my good fellow? Why planet earth of course! Ok, enough dodging let's have your ideas please.While we are talking about the best new technology for locating precious metals in the soil of the earth, it would be good to also hear a little about locating metals in the lunar soil. The moon is not so far distant from the earth that we haven't explored it yet and brought back samples from the lunar soil. But nobody has done a serious survey to see if there are any precious metal deposits near the surface that can be recovered in a sizeable amount that might pay for the cost of a trip to the moon (this is a forum for treasure hunters, isn't it)?

I have been wondering how the lower gravitational field would effect this little-known new technology, and how the magnetic field of the moon would influence the detection abilities of this new technology. I would expect the standard PI and VLF detection methods would work about as well as they do on the surface of the earth, and maybe better due to the absence of high moisture content on the moon. Magnetometer readings may even work better considering the magnetic field seen at the surface of the moon. But if this new technology depends on a gravitational and magnetic field similar to what we see on the earth, there could be some radical variations in the operation of the new equipment. And if the new technology works in conjunction with radiant energies from the sun and other space energies, I would expect there are large differences on the moon, where there is no atmosphere working to filter many of the radiations and create a cyclical electric space charge similar to what we have in the earth atmosphere. I suppose the moon is relatively free of strong signals from nearby man-made RF broadcasts, with little or no RF signals traveling through the lunar ground other than intermittent noise generated by lunar soil movements and meteorites.

Of course, I suppose I am talking about detecting from the side of the moon where the sun is shining. But if this new technology works on the dark side, it would be good to know how it should be used there too.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Ernie]

Was that last editting to say No! I didn't scream like a little girl after 911.
I think i LRL'ed a what?
Happy prospecting
Ernie

[Seden]

Ernie, how 'bout some serious technical information please? Do you want to garner a reputation as a Psycho-Ceramic (Crackpot)?

Over the years we've had several fellows like you invade Carl's forum and he is patient but don't push it.

Randy

[Theseus]

Ernie, how 'bout some serious technical information please? Do you want to garner a reputation as a Psycho-Ceramic (Crackpot)?

Over the years we've had several fellows like you invade Carl's forum and he is patient but don't push it.

Randy

I don't think he is capable of serious dialog or information. Near as I can tell, his only purpose here is to provide a level of "background noise", ranging all the way from the ridiculous to extremely ridiculous and off topic.

Not sure how he has managed to be allowed to continue this long. :shrug:

[J_Player]

Actually, I was just beginning to get intetrested...
If you filter out the gibberish, Ernie did make some comprehensible statements in this thread. Starting at the beginning, here is what I can see that makes some sense:

...one thing i've learn't out of 30 years of mining construction is you build your fellow man UP not down!
I think of a book called HOW TO BUILD FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE which is an excellent seller apparently, although i have not bought it, but basically describes possitive ways to communicate to others. Which i think this forum needs attention to this subject, of possitive communication to others .

I don't know whether you (MIKE/MONT) sent that last post in error or if you diddn't? And if you sent it on perpose well i can only say your a DicHEAD!

Cripes for so called GURU'S and SENIOR members you seem to be full of crap.

"I think" Mike "the Guru" Mont is trying to describe a slide of hand trick he himself learnt back in the 1960's while flowing with free radiates on a life is beautiful flower picking acidic field trip that still lingers in the pressure of his membrane sphere where the bipolar polarity changes and is easy to detect.
What I would like in this forum is science facts like I=V/R or P=V2/r
Proposed experiment – If I insert a 1,000Hz signal into a resistor what frequency would I get out?

Originally Posted by Seden
Your point is noted. I would now like to hear what you feel is the best in new technology for locating precious metals in soil?

Originally Posted by Ernie
What planet?
Happy prospecting.
Ernie We see that after extolling the virtues of a book called "HOW TO BUILD FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE", Ernie proceeds to call people names and make fun of them, apparently because they don't have the same point of view about technical things as Ernie has. Then when Randy tries to get Ernie to focus back on technical details, we see Ernie wants to know "what planet?"

"What planet" ??
Well, that explains it !!!

I don't know if Ernie is originally from earth or not, but he has obviously been to a lot of other places. No wonder it is so difficult to make sense of a lot of his scrawlings. Anyone who has travelled far enough to contact and mingle with alien beings will need to become accustomed to some very diverse modes of communication and points of view in order to understand the new technology they are exposed to. I suppose some of the concepts Ernie learned from among alien populations are too far removed from human understanding to find proper words to describe without sounding like gibberish.

But fortunately, Randy came to the rescue to steer Ernie back to the topic of technology for locating precious metals in the soil. I was just beginning to get interested when I asked for some details for locating metals on the moon. But it appears there will be no technical details forthcoming.

Dang... It kinda makes you wonder if Ernie really knows any advanced technology for detecting metals, or whether he ever visited alien planets at all... :shrug:

Best wishes,
J_P

[reza vir]

It does not work

[Mike(Mont)]

r.v. that ought to send up a red warning flag for you that you are unable to use L-rods. L-rods take many, many hours to learn. If you don't use some form of meditation, you will not learn ever. Admittedly those rods are the worst I've seen and that device is a big rip-off and the guy stole the idea. Bill Morgan (deceased) sold those for about $5. As I once said, if you take a coat hanger and stick it in a piece of dog crap for the handle it would work better than those rods. The piezo buzzer is very inaccurate. If you want something better, hook up a speaker to a frequency generator. As you walk around the "transmitter" try to listen for what I call an "ear blink". Sorry you got burned on that one.

Just curious, are you basing your results on the last couple days? We have been experiencing solar magnetic disturbance and locating conditions have not been good.

[jusuf]

I would call it fraud. and only scam ,,I bought ,,, Colorado Gold Sticks,,,,:nono: dos not work


the small box with buttons there is nothing inside only battery that makes voice

this is scam :nono:

[Qiaozhi]

I would call it fraud. and only scam ,,I bought ,,, Colorado Gold Sticks,,,,:nono: dos not work


the small box with buttons there is nothing inside only battery that makes voice

this is scam :nono:
Unfortunately, this is the way that most people receive their LRL education. :frown:

The ones that build their own LRLs probably know deep down that they're wasting their time, but they have some fun in the process. On the other hand, using good money to buy fraudulent scams is no fun at all.

[reza vir]

thank jusuf

[Carl-NC]

Apparently this recent mention of Colorado Gold Sticks has prompted the Reverend Teddy Martin (the guy who makes them) to send me the following email:


Carl, this last email I will write to you before we enter into a class action law suit. We have tried at no avail to get you to take off of our photos as well as your defamation of my character. I have been in touch with my lawyer's office. All 3 lawyers have stated I must first send you a letter of retraction. From the issue of this letter on 05/04/2013. You have 30 days to take off all letters, and images. If you do not take them off within 30 days from today's date. 05/04/2013. We will be entering into a defamation of character suit as well as damages to your false claim that have affected the sales of my product to the tune of $270,000. Last Chance Carl
Teddy Martin / Owner

[Seden]

I think he's bluffing.

Randy

[Dave J.]

Apparently this recent mention of Colorado Gold Sticks has prompted the Reverend Teddy Martin (the guy who makes them) to send me the following email:

Carl, if ya don't mind, please send Reverend Teddy the following message:

"Dear Rev. Teddy,

The damn thing is a fraud, so stop calling yourself Reverend. If you don't "get it", ask what happened to that fraudster Chuckie who had a product a helluvalot fancier than yours. It's public record, ignorance is no excuse. If you don't level with your technically ignorant lawyers what the straight skinny is, in all likelihood in the end it's you they're gonna sue, not Carl.

Look at it another way. If they didn't do a credit check on you, your lawyers are incompetent. If they did do a credit check on you and took your case, they know what you wish they didn't. There isn't enough justice in the world, but there is some."

--Dave Johnson

[Qiaozhi]

... ask what happened to that fraudster Chuckie who had a product a helluvalot fancier than yours.
A more relevant case of fraud is that of James McCormick.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/apr/27/ouija-boards-dowsing-rods-bomb-detectors
Although JM's case was more serious, as it potentially resulted in many serious injuries and death. In the case of the Colorado Gold Sticks, it only leads to disappointment and a slightly dented wallet.

[Carl-NC]

Here's my reply to the Good Reverend:


The short answer: No.

The long answer: I believe I had agreed to send you a contract for my $25,000 LRL challenge, and then it completely slipped my mind. So I am attaching a draft contract for your review.

Regards,
Carl
And here is his response, verbatim:


Look Carl, I'm not signing no contract to prove my product works. Nor will I enter into a challenge with a blind fold. THAT IS REDICULIOUS. You must see where the sticks turn in order to find objects through electro Magnetic Energies.
Your claims are totally false, and I have 50 witnesses I can bring into court that will say you are totally full of crap.
You also took my first test run, and put it on the internet. The new items and there guts look totally different, and as a result you have defamed my products, and my repatation not only as a Pastor but as a manufacturer of great sluices, Highbankers as well as a Great long range locators. I do not know how you sleep at night. You put other people's products down to your own gratification. That is okay, your day will come in court, and my lawyer will be in contact with you for an imediate with drawal of comments, and pictures. He said it is called a sease, and assist. If that does not occur, we will be suing you for defamation of character as well as loss of revenue.

Teddy Martin / Owner

I'll be honest, I had to look up the word 'sease', apparently it's an obsolete spelling of 'seize'. So I'll try not to sease anything, continue to assist as I can, and use an enema before I go to court.

[Qiaozhi]

It also looks like you've proved his total lack of command of the English language.

The sheer number of spelling mistakes and grammatical errors is simply atrocious; and he clearly has no idea what a double-blind test entails. It certainly doesn't require anyone to wear a blindfold. Or should that be a "blind fold" (sic)? :lol:

[Qiaozhi]

Here's a response to the doubters, that Rev Ted has posted on youtube ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC68NXjLVWQ

Interestingly, he appears to be wearing a gold ring on his left hand, but the Colorado Gold sticks are able to ignore it, even though apparently the box is set to the "gold frequency". :rolleyes:

[Carl-NC]

Or should that be a "blind fold" (sic)? :lol:

A blind fold is putting the laundry away with your eyes closed.

[Mike(Mont)]

You know how skeptical I am. I wonder if this is another skeptic hoax. I mean skeptics are known to be serial fake identity users. Those emails could have be sent by someone like Dave J. even though it does seems quite convincing.

[Qiaozhi]

You know how skeptical I am.

:???: :???: :???:

On the contrary ... anyone, who believes that L-rods are working by anything other than a trick of the mind, is not skeptical.

The sentence: "Mike Mont is a skeptic", does not compute. :nerd:

[Qiaozhi]

The Colorado Gold Sticks are being sold on the UK eBay website, with this message:

Notes : There are a few people on the internet, and in treasure forums who are degrading our product. Simply because in there small way of thinking...they cannot conceive that a Long Range locator can infact work...even though digital units are sold all over the world, and have found thousands of items world wide at huge depths. We have proven over and over again that the Colorado Gold Sticks infact do work, or we would not have all these items shown below in our Treasure Box. Feel free to call Teddy directly and ask all questions before listening to the Degraders. (719) 429-3289 Cell

complete with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors!

You can read the rest of the verbage here ->
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Colorado-Gold-Sticks-Metal-Detectors-Led-Model-/290909151759?pt=US_Metal_Detectors&hash=item43bb89620f

[Carl-NC]

You know how skeptical I am. I wonder if this is another skeptic hoax. I mean skeptics are known to be serial fake identity users. Those emails could have be sent by someone like Dave J. even though it does seems quite convincing.

Ya know, Mike, you don't have to wonder if this is a hoax. This is an easy "look, and see for yourself." The Reverend Teddy has a web site, an email address, and a phone number. All you have to do is make an effort.

[Mike(Mont)]

You must have me confused with someone who cares. Sure, I think the guy is unethical, but you must know I think the same thing about LRL skeptics.

[Carl-NC]

For someone who doesn't care, you sure do write a lot of I-Hate-Skeptics letters.

[Qiaozhi]

You must have me confused with someone who cares. Sure, I think the guy is unethical, but you must know I think the same thing about LRL skeptics.
Does this mean that you are skeptical about skeptics? ;)

[WM6]

Sure, I think the guy is unethical,



Why? Cause he used cheap soap box for housing and unshielded switch?

Would be ethical in one use expensive Dior soap box?



L-rods take many, many hours to learn.



Sure, there can be many, many possibilities how to switch soap box ON and OFF.

Do you think that using piezo buzzer can prolongate L-rods learning curve?

What you suggest as L-rod start and go configuration?

[mr cleo]

the Colorado gold sticks do work I have found a lot of coins and some silver with them
I have not dug a empty hole yet. 'the blind test' try driving a car blind folded and blame it on the car.:lol:

[Dave J.]

Looks like we have several possible explanations.

1. No such thing as an empty hole. That's standard stuff in the world of LRL, what a rational person would call "empty" is what a wielder of an LRL has an alibi for. No shortage of available alibis, the LRL fans have stuffed the forums full of such alabis. Especially the fans who also sell the stuff!

2. The swingy thingies worked but the electronic gizmo was just fakery. The problem now is that you have to get rid of the electronic gizmo fakery in order to achieve the same results that the coat hanger swingers before you also reported.

3. The swingy thingies don't actually work, and you've tricked yourself into "detecting" targets you or someone you know actually buried less than month beforehand. Useless for finding otherwise unknown vauables, other than pointing into a general direction where you've decided to search, and then you whip out your metal detector.

--Dave J.

[Qiaozhi]

the Colorado gold sticks do work I have found a lot of coins and some silver with them
I have not dug a empty hole yet. 'the blind test' try driving a car blind folded and blame it on the car.:lol:
You obviously have no idea what is involved in a double-blind test. :lol:
Try reading this ->
A Double-Blind Test for LRLs (http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=/info/dbtesting.dat)
At no time are you required to wear a blindfold.

[Carl-NC]

I love it when people assume a blind test means wearing a blindfold. I should add this to my alibi list.