Pistol like Mineoro

[Esteban]

Very sensitive but very immune to electric lines and fluorescent tubes emmission, also very sensitive to static electricity. Want to try in inland. Two pics.

[Geo]

Very sensitive but very immune to electric lines and fluorescent tubes emmission, also very sensitive to static electricity. Want to try in inland. Two pics.

What is there inside the box :confused: ?
Very sensitive at what?
Regards

[Esteban]

Very sensitive to electric fields. I contrast with a Mineoro find, and my detector also work. This is very filtrate to AC current 50-60 Hz noise. Here with parts:

[Geo]

Hi Esteban. Thanks for the photo.
The printed coil and the ferite core are for magnetic detector? I see two detectors one for magnetic and one for electric field. How it detects metals ??

[hung]

Esteban,

Did you find necessary to shield the perimeter antena's PCB so it won't suffer interference in the back of the detector (handle side)?
That is, it does not pick signals from the back of detector (handle side).

[Esteban]

Hi, the most important is that the electric field detector don't suffer interferences. The magnetic detector contain momentary press switch for to off the magnetic detector, so only works the electric field detector. The both detector actuates in conjunction electric + magnetic, the last as absorber.

[Geo]

Very sensitive to electric fields. I contrast with a Mineoro find, and my detector also work. This is very filtrate to AC current 50-60 Hz noise. Here with parts:
Hi. If you are looking for metals at places that there are not electric fields (50 or 60 hz) then at which distance can you locate a metal object (a coin or a 1litre can)? What electric field does it detect from buried objects? Does it work with the principle of the ground battery ?
Regards

[Esteban]

With an only magnetic method absorber you can find an old coin at 5 m, in combination with electric field detector 15-20 meters. Also depend the size of target. The only sure I'm is that a good conductive metal buried for long time has around him an electric field. Is as a pole of a battery formed in the soil for chemistry process.

[diminute]

Esteban, pues publica la información que tengas acerca de ese dispositivo.

El esquema y las conexiones, asÃ* como el principio de funcionamiento.

Nos estás dejando expectantes acerca de este novedoso invento, pero hablas poco, jajaja


Saludos

diminute

[Geo]

With an only magnetic method absorber you can find an old coin at 5 m, in combination with electric field detector 15-20 meters. Also depend the size of target. The only sure I'm is that a good conductive metal buried for long time has around him an electric field. Is as a pole of a battery formed in the soil for chemistry process.




Very good . Thanks. It is fantastic to have the ability to find a coin from 5 to 15 m distance. Maybe at new year to try one. Now i must finish the anker ss60 and a new version of a 2box.
My Best Regards:) :)

[okantex]

what is zahori.I mean the modified one by ivconic.is it electric field detector.

and if electric field detector detects from futher ,why do do add magnetic detector inside.what is the advantage of it,or your aim to add it?
thanks

[okantex]

what is zahori.I mean the modified one by ivconic.is it electric field detector.

and if electric field detector detects from further ,why did you add magnetic detector inside.what is the advantage of it,or your aim to add it?
thanks
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[okantex]

Esteban
I have another question
I cannot understand how this telescopic antennas work.
I mean,in radios we use this antenna in different manner.we hold it upwards and recieve with it's lateral sides.not from stars .just from base stations with laterals.
but in long range units .in zahori and mineoro we use it as pinpointer.we look like use it's tip not laterals.
Can you explain this.
thanks

[Esteban]

For any reason? in this form works better for electric fields.

[Seden]

Are you going to share the schematic with us or do you have plans to make and sell them? Would be good to give Mineoro some competition so they lower their prices. What needs to happen is for you to give demonstrations to metal detectorists. Guy's in Australia would give their left Gonad for something that would give them more depth than the GP4000 PI detectors.

Randy ;)

[Esteban]

Personal experiments and investigations. Not in mind competition.

[okantex]

"
With an only magnetic method absorber you can find an old coin at 5 m, in combination with electric field detector 15-20 meters. Also depend the size of target. The only sure I'm is that a good conductive metal buried for long time has around him an electric field. Is as a pole of a battery formed in the soil for chemistry process.
"
if you only use elecric field detector,what will be the result.

[Geo]

Hi Esteban. Every time that i look at the pistol photo i have a new question. Now i see the tune coil. At who frequency is tuned ?
The meter works only from electric field detector but the buzzer from both detectors (if the wires from key have a output signal). What is the trafo and audio in?
Electric field and magnetic field detectors are work at the same frequency ?
I know that this detector is result from your Personal experiments and investigations so there is not problem if you do not want to answer me.
Best Regards:)

[Esteban]

Hi

In the Khz range. The meter only is for to adjust the electric field detector in a point semi-quiet, a kind of monitor, and the buzzer shows detection of the both.

The trafo is part of the output of the magnetic detector, adjustable (I added a new external control for it).

Electric field detector don't work via frequency.

[Seden]

:flag_us: Esteban,

How much are you going to charge to see your schematic? Also on your picture change the word "sensibility" and use the work sensitivity instead.

I'm working on a detector myself but I have to do lab and in-sutu experiments to see if I'm going with SIP,CW White noise or plasma. I just bought off ebay a USB module that gives you a Scope and Spectrum Analyzer and you can do a Freq.VS Phase display which I'll need for SIP all for $200 (made in China of course). It's going to be awhile as I've got alot of work ahead of me but when I finish I will be straight forward in presenting the schematics and the test results so I encourage you to do the same for us.

Randy

[Esteban]

Refer sensibility. I'm thinking in your idea, remember? Very interesting!!!

[batman1972]

Have u PCB and Part list for this Pistol pls?

[WM6]

Very sensitive but very immune to electric lines and fluorescent tubes emission,

.

Yes, unfortunately very immune to all types of precious metals too.

[Morgan]

For any reason? in this form works better for electric fields.
Hello Esteban

Do you have some information about this new Pistoldetector ?

MINEORO DCH85M
11095

[Geo]

Hello Esteban

Do you have some information about this new Pistoldetector ?

MINEORO DCH85M
11095

Hi Morgan.
Does they sell yet this old detector?????

Regards:)

[hung]

Hello Esteban

Do you have some information about this new Pistoldetector ?

MINEORO DCH85M
11095

It's the same DCH85 that is being reissued.

[Esteban]

Hello Esteban

Do you have some information about this new Pistoldetector ?

MINEORO DCH85M
11095

This is year 2000, the DCH85 is 1985.

[hung]

This is year 2000, the DCH85 is 1985.

Actually we are both wrong Esteban, you and me.:lol:

I just talked to my friend there. There's a new implementation done recently by Alonso to the DCH85. A good one by the way.
So this is the one they are selling as it is now featured in the DCH85.

We are sending our unit to Mineoro in the next few days for this upgrade as this new mod will fit our purposes in a particular spot.

Regards.

[WM6]

Last mineoro model pistol owner picture:

[Fred]

Actually when i saw "It's the same DCH85 that is being reissued" i felt shocked, but i see you have rapidly corrected this counter-productive remark.
In a way i feel sad as it was probably the truth, for once.

[WM6]

There's a new implementation done recently by Alonso to the DCH85. A good one by the way.




Yes, "A good one by the way". Why? Because DCH85 was not "A good one by the way".

Scamers even do not realize, that by this is recognized, that their famous DCH85 pistol did not work.

[detectoman]

geo, may be is version for public
i think what these is imprecise, esteban earlier build one clone of these, may be he have information
i not think what these model have fine gold resonator, then isnt good, any inform of morgan and other says what this pistol is very inestabile, how iconos, may be ok may be most wrong
what is price :(

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
Does they sell yet this old detector?????

Regards:)
Hi Geo

Yes they sell. I chek the Mineoro site yesterday
They say this thing can detect gold coin 450m distance:nono:

[Morgan]

Last mineoro model pistol owner picture:
Yes,unfortunatly...

[Geo]

Hi Geo

Yes they sell. I chek the Mineoro site yesterday
They say this thing can detect gold coin 450m distance:nono:

Maybe 50...80m. But how it select the metals for discriminate????
Maybe it has 2 or 3 "filters via selector", who knows, Esteban... do you know????

Regards

[Geo]

geo, may be is version for public
i think what these is imprecise, esteban earlier build one clone of these, may be he have information
i not think what these model have fine gold resonator, then isnt good, any inform of morgan and other says what this pistol is very inestabile, how iconos, may be ok may be most wrong
what is price :(

Hi Detectoman.
I believe that the "phenomenon" is not stable not the DCH.

Regards

[detectoman]

good geo! may be too tipe terrain, lines presence, near or far radio antens, sun activity, body statics, cellular oscilation, watch oscilation, magma turbulence, air electric charged, planets alineation, heart marcapasos, rasquidos de armadillo, toses de ardillas, friction of mineralizated rocks, orinadas de zorrillo, etc, sems como woman very imprediscible, may be 12.5- 20 mts in excelent conditions, but in bad, mm 2.5 cms, @ 4.7 cms, in any imprecise days of good condition atmosfere, except europe and asia

[Morgan]

good geo! may be too tipe terrain, lines presence, near or far radio antens, sun activity, body statics, cellular oscilation, watch oscilation, magma turbulence, air electric charged, planets alineation, heart marcapasos, rasquidos de armadillo, toses de ardillas, friction of mineralizated rocks, orinadas de zorrillo, etc, sems como woman very imprediscible, may be 12.5- 20 mts in excelent conditions, but in bad, mm 2.5 cms, @ 4.7 cms, in any imprecise days of good condition atmosfere, except europe and asia
Hola pecoso

Rasquidos de armadillo y orinadas de zorrillo,muy original ;)

[Esteban]

Hola pecoso

Rasquidos de armadillo y orinadas de zorrillo,muy original ;)

Puede ser que esto produzca más "campo". :lol:

[detectoman]

orin of zorrillo , rich in urea very much electrician ions, these gave fourescent light in the night, is very conductive due salt

[mrezaee31]

hi ,dear Esteban
thanks

[Morgan]

This is year 2000, the DCH85 is 1985.



Hello Esteban

I have questions for you,or maybe Hung also can answer...
1-The Mineoro model DC2006 detect ionized plastics,its ionic/electrostatic only ?

2-The model DC2008 can detect metal near the coil,and not detect ionized plastics,it works based on what ? Passive Receiver ?

3-The model DCH85,not detect ionized plastics or metal near the coil,this i know works with Antenna + Oscillator...Its what you call the absorptive LRL ?

Regards

[Morgan]

Puede ser que esto produzca más "campo". :lol:



No answer ? ...:shrug:

[Esteban]

Hello Esteban

I have questions for you,or maybe Hung also can answer...
1-The Mineoro model DC2006 detect ionized plastics,its ionic/electrostatic only ?

2-The model DC2008 can detect metal near the coil,and not detect ionized plastics,it works based on what ? Passive Receiver ?

3-The model DCH85,not detect ionized plastics or metal near the coil,this i know works with Antenna + Oscillator...Its what you call the absorptive LRL ?

Regards

The DCs detects static electricity of charged plastic if you move strongly a charged piece in the front. The both doesn't detect metal near the front.

DCH85 is other type with circular antenna. Is not absorptive in frequency, but a milivolt detector via antenna.

[Morgan]

The DCs detects static electricity of charged plastic if you move strongly a charged piece in the front. The both doesn't detect metal near the front.

DCH85 is other type with circular antenna. Is not absorptive in frequency, but a milivolt detector via antenna.



So,my Mineoro DC2008 is diferent? It detect very easy metal but not more than 50 cm ,acording size.

I can put one video for demonstration.

The good news ,i detect strong signal with my DC2008,and PD,signal come from top of one mountain,place of XIX military setlement,but heavy rain start,i give up,beturn next time to try more LRL´s before dig.

Thanks

[Esteban]

So,my Mineoro DC2008 is diferent? It detect very easy metal but not more than 50 cm ,acording size.

I can put one video for demonstration.

The good news ,i detect strong signal with my DC2008,and PD,signal come from top of one mountain,place of XIX military setlement,but heavy rain start,i give up,beturn next time to try more LRL´s before dig.

Thanks

Don't know DC2008 wich can detect metal in front...

[detectoman]

may be dc20008 has wires cores reversed for current morgan's examination
morgan mete frecuentemente las narices dentro de todos los aparatos para curiosiar

[Esteban]

may be dc20008 has wires cores reversed for current morgan's examination
morgan mete frecuentemente las narices dentro de todos los aparatos para curiosiar

:lol::lol::lol:

[Fred]

may be dc20008 has wires cores reversed for current morgan's examination
morgan mete frecuentemente las narices dentro de todos los aparatos para curiosiar
This is how you can learn.

[Morgan]

11531Don't know DC2008 wich can detect metal in front...


Dont know what DC2008 you have in Paraguay,but my one detect gold and metal near the Ionic Chamber

[Morgan]

may be dc20008 has wires cores reversed for current morgan's examination
morgan mete frecuentemente las narices dentro de todos los aparatos para curiosiar



Of course,and my DC2008 no exception,i open and saw inside,that this one works in principle of electromagnetic resonance and as also THE EYE infrared . Maybe its unique ? Damasio´s masterpiece ???

[J_Player]

Of course,and my DC2008 no exception,i open and saw inside,that this one works in principle of electromagnetic resonance and as also THE EYE infrared . Maybe its unique ? Damasio´s masterpiece ???All Mineoro DC is not the same?
Maybe you get an average one, and maybe a good one because they are built different inside?
Is this the same for FG?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

All Mineoro DC is not the same?
Maybe you get an average one, and maybe a good one because they are built different inside?
Is this the same for FG?

Best wishes,
J_P



Something strange,i dont know,i imagine all models DC2008 identical,production in serie...

[Fred]

Something strange,i dont know,i imagine all models DC2008 identical,production in serie...
At the price they are, you only need to build one per year and you can rest for the remaining time.
The following year, you dont remember how was built the previous one...

[Esteban]

11531


Dont know what DC2008 you have in Paraguay,but my one detect gold and metal near the Ionic Chamber

I think you need to "rob" the sensibility and see what happens. Sometimes excess of sensibility produces false beeps regarding capacitances, for example, when you move near the soil this detector. This is the video posted by you to me. Write the code and wait 45 seconds. After this time, you can download.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SAGMWS80

[Morgan]

I think you need to "rob" the sensibility and see what happens. Sometimes excess of sensibility produces false beeps regarding capacitances, for example, when you move near the soil this detector. This is the video posted by you to me. Write the code and wait 45 seconds. After this time, you can download.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SAGMWS80




This is the picture you put in the forum about dc2008.
Acording you,its possible to detect metal near the coil,seems you forget about this.

regards

[Morgan]

Don't know DC2008 wich can detect metal in front...


11539

[Esteban]

11539

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.

[Morgan]

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.


Ok,i was wrong but is i think it as some similarities...

11614

[Morgan]

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.


Anyway still a DC2008 after your modifications,or change the name ???

Regards

11615


So is this MINEORO DC2008 able to locate one large coin near the coil or not ???

I think yes...

[Morgan]

Anyway still a DC2008 after your modifications,or change the name ???

Regards

11615


So is this MINEORO DC2008 able to locate one large coin near the coil or not ???

I think yes...


Is this the Alonso´s PD Passive Receiver inside Mineoro DC 2008,Hummm,i supose yes...
In my DC this PCB is covered with black resin...

[Morgan]

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.


Corrections are acepted if i´m wrong

master Esteban...

[Morgan]

Corrections are acepted if i´m wrong

master Esteban...

???

[Geo]

Is this the Alonso´s PD Passive Receiver inside Mineoro DC 2008,Hummm,i supose yes...
In my DC this PCB is covered with black resin...

Yes, it is PCB5

[Morgan]

Yes, it is PCB5



o,why this PCB not as the black resine as other DC2008 models ???

[Morgan]

Yes, it is PCB5


Hi Geo

As Esteban remains so silent,i can ask you this question :

The Passive Receiver can work as METAL DETECTOR inside DC2008 model,maibe we can use the same as Mineoro,toroidal coil and single loop(instead of ferrite) in the Pistoldetektor PCB 5 ??? I think it will be very sensitive !!!

Dont you think?


Regards

[Geo]

o,why this PCB not as the black resine as other DC2008 models ???

If you will look carefully, you will see that the black resin is down the passive receiver.
Also look the color of the passive receiver pcb, and the main pcb of Mineoro.
I believe that Esteban put this pcb later to the DC2008

[Geo]

Hi Geo

As Esteban remains so silent,i can ask you this question :

The Passive Receiver can work as METAL DETECTOR inside DC2008 model,maibe we can use the same as Mineoro,toroidal coil and single loop(instead of ferrite) in the Pistoldetektor PCB 5 ??? I think it will be very sensitive !!!

Dont you think?


Regards

Passive receiver can work as magnetic or electrostatic detector. Remember my Pistol at your home:):)

[Morgan]

If you will look carefully, you will see that the black resin is down the passive receiver.
Also look the color of the passive receiver pcb, and the main pcb of Mineoro.
I believe that Esteban put this pcb later to the DC2008




No,the photo with passive receiver comes with the note DC2008 as original,then it comes the other photo with modifications...


Thanks Geo

[Fred]

Esteban gives lots of info , but never when or what we need :D

[Morgan]

Esteban gives lots of info , but never when or what we need :D




Hi Fred

As you can see,he already give a lot of info. see this pictures ?
I´m trying to understant how passive receiver can work in PD without ferrite,i think i go to try the same as in Mineoro DC2008,other kind of antenna,i want to avoid the critical adjustments,this will happen when PD become very sensitive using Passive Receiver alone. For exemple,the model DC2008 detect very good gold objects size of large coin,20 cm from the resonating chamber or antenna using this Pass. Receiver...
I think from this images we can learn something usefull for upgrade the PD.

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Maybe, Esteban intentionally place PD's passive receiver in the DC2008 for us to think that the passive receiver can be made to be used in mineoro detectors after esteban making some experiment. The problem is that Esteban will not give us the complete specifications. He always mislead people in this forum. :frown:

regards...

[WM6]

There is no easy way to the mystical Land of Gold.

[Fred]

Actually from what Esteban said from so long time I think the precise details are unimportant.
I can be from audio up to VHf band, the "antenna" can be loop telescopic or ferrite, the output must be triggered and make something beep when there is variations on the ambient noise.
Of course there is the electrostatic stuff which works the same way but with voltage instead of RF. And the supreme device which use both.

[J_Player]

Actually from what Esteban said from so long time I think the precise details are unimportant.
I can be from audio up to VHf band, the "antenna" can be loop telescopic or ferrite, the output must be triggered and make something beep when there is variations on the ambient noise.
Of course there is the electrostatic stuff which works the same way but with voltage instead of RF. And the supreme device which use both.Maybe there is a better way than using both. If you combine the electrostatic and magnetic loop RF with an LED for optical frequencies, then you will have a 3-way detection system. But even better would be to include an additional static magnetic sensor for quadro detection. Of course you would need to program a PIC to process these four signals properly before causing the 555 to make beeps. For example, when the static magnetic sensor detected magnetic north, then the processor would make a correction by subtracting the magnetic north influence from the signal so it you would not make a mistake to think this is a gold signlal. And the processor should subtract broadcast RF and modulation as well as 50/60 Hz power signals to remove EMI noise from the treasure signal. Then the remaining treasure signal could be easily processed to determine exactly what metal you detected at what distance and how deep in the ground, as well as it's weight.

The resultant "cleaned" treasure signal would be so good that you could call the quadro-detector the supreme LRL.
Think so?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Maybe there is a better way than using both. If you combine the electrostatic and magnetic loop RF with an LED for optical frequencies, then you will have a 3-way detection system. But even better would be to include an additional static magnetic sensor for quadro detection. Of course you would need to program a PIC to process these four signals properly before causing the 555 to make beeps. For example, when the static magnetic sensor detected magnetic north, then the processor would make a correction by subtracting the magnetic north influence from the signal so it you would not make a mistake to think this is a gold signlal. And the processor should subtract broadcast RF and modulation as well as 50/60 Hz power signals to remove EMI noise from the treasure signal. Then the remaining treasure signal could be easily processed to determine exactly what metal you detected at what distance and how deep in the ground, as well as it's weight.

The resultant "cleaned" treasure signal would be so good that you could call the quadro-detector the supreme LRL.
Think so?

Best wishes,
J_P


Hi J_P

I think we should join the team again in the Pistoldetektor project and make one last atempt,this time only to upgrade the PASSIVE RECEIVER in the pistol to the limits,of course someone here maybe have enough knolenge to do this(Esteban) but...
As you know the fast LRL results in Alonso PD result in special balance Pass. Rec. + Omega,but it was told by Alonso that Pass. Rec. working alone is able to detect treasure size many meters distant,SO LET INCREASE THIS P. RECEIVER TO DETECT ALSO THE SMALL TARGETS,lets try diferent antennas ferrites etc...
The specific electromagnetic resonance of PD is 62 KHz,this is a filter,the results i get is always Gold,silver,aluminium(sometimes) No bronze,plumb or iron. So we have one LRL,only need to upgrade Pass. Rec. for coin size objects. Not forget the Passive Receiver works automatic,no need the critical adjustment,this will be good for all of you in your TH searche.Using the heatkit only for pinpoint the objects after dig.

Regards

[J_Player]

Hi J_P

I think we should join the team again in the Pistoldetektor project and make one last atempt,this time only to upgrade the PASSIVE RECEIVER in the pistol to the limits,of course someone here maybe have enough knolenge to do this(Esteban) but...
As you know the fast LRL results in Alonso PD result in special balance Pass. Rec. + Omega,but it was told by Alonso that Pass. Rec. working alone is able to detect treasure size many meters distant,SO LET INCREASE THIS P. RECEIVER TO DETECT ALSO THE SMALL TARGETS,lets try diferent antennas ferrites etc...
The specific electromagnetic resonance of PD is 62 KHz,this is a filter,the results i get is always Gold,silver,aluminium(sometimes) No bronze,plumb or iron. So we have one LRL,only need to upgrade Pass. Rec. for coin size objects. Not forget the Passive Receiver works automatic,no need the critical adjustment,this will be good for all of you in your TH searche.Using the heatkit only for pinpoint the objects after dig.

RegardsIf you are interested in improving the passive receiver section, then my guess is a well chosen ferrite with precision hand-tuning of the gap as well as the inductance, along with designing for high Q will give a much better performance than the toroid circuit. My opinion is the toroid coil was chosen for the Mineoro production model because it could be manufactured much more easily than a hand-tuned ferrite of the proper permeability for the frequency used. I would think this toroid circuit was chosen for the best compromise you can expect in performance from the standard components that you can order from a catalogue and quickly wind a coil on it. Maybe a business decision was made to use this next best substitute to replace the more sensitive hand-tuned ferrite. For this reason, I would not bother to spend the time duplicating the Mineoro production circuit to replace the hand tuned Alonso circuit. It seems to me to be the same as trying to improve the performance of your Ferrari by replacing the engine with a Fiat engine.

In addition to tuning the ferrite better, I would also suggest optimizing the amplifier section between the green LED and the beep generator for better signal processing. This is the area where the real work in formulating the final signal is done before registering at the 555 threshold amplifier on CB2.

But maybe I am wrong, but that's my opinion.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Maybe a business decision was made to use this next best substitute to replace the more sensitive hand-tuned ferrite. For this reason, I would not bother to spend the time duplicating the Mineoro production circuit to replace the hand tuned Alonso circuit. It seems to me to be the same as trying to improve the performance of your Ferrari by replacing the engine with a Fiat engine.


Best wishes,
J_P

Hahaha...
Hi J_P.
I liked it

Regards:)

[Morgan]

If you are interested in improving the passive receiver section, then my guess is a well chosen ferrite with precision hand-tuning of the gap as well as the inductance, along with designing for high Q will give a much better performance than the toroid circuit. My opinion is the toroid coil was chosen for the Mineoro production model because it could be manufactured much more easily than a hand-tuned ferrite of the proper permeability for the frequency used. I would think this toroid circuit was chosen for the best compromise you can expect in performance from the standard components that you can order from a catalogue and quickly wind a coil on it. Maybe a business decision was made to use this next best substitute to replace the more sensitive hand-tuned ferrite. For this reason, I would not bother to spend the time duplicating the Mineoro production circuit to replace the hand tuned Alonso circuit. It seems to me to be the same as trying to improve the performance of your Ferrari by replacing the engine with a Fiat engine.

In addition to tuning the ferrite better, I would also suggest optimizing the amplifier section between the green LED and the beep generator for better signal processing. This is the area where the real work in formulating the final signal is done before registering at the 555 threshold amplifier on CB2.

But maybe I am wrong, but that's my opinion.

Best wishes,
J_P


J_P

Thanks for your sugestion ;)

[Morgan]

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.


Silent is gold...

[detectoman]

jajaja silent is support

[humhum]

Hi to All , My LRL sens up to 10Km :

This fotos:

http://www.detector-planet.com/dpforum/index.php/topic,4.0.html

[WM6]

Hi to All , My LRL sens up to 10Km :

This fotos:

http://www.detector-planet.com/dpforum/index.php/topic,4.0.html

What? Only 10 km? Shame of you.

[Seden]

That link is bad.

Randy

[humhum]

What? Only 10 km? Shame of you.

Ha ha ha not Meter , KM !

[Morgan]

Ha ha ha not Meter , KM !


In what principle works your LRL,its ionic/electrostatic ?

Are you sure about this distance,10.000 meters ?

Regards

[J_Player]

In what principle works your LRL,its ionic/electrostatic ?

Are you sure about this distance,10.000 meters ?

Regardshumhum posted a bad link to the photo of his LRL, so we cannot not see it.
Maybe if we had a good link to the photo, we might see a photo of a telescope that can locate large flag poles up to 10 Km. :rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Return. I had corrupted Windows file. Computer negate to start. C disc was formatted. First, files was saved on DVDs.

The modifications I make inside DC2008 are mine, are not part of Mineoro.

The original DC2008 (before modifications) can't detect metal in front. If your 2008 can detect metal in front, be happy! Tomorrow I'll ask Alonso about it.

[detectoman]

esteban: los antivirus son muy perjuiciosos para las pc, y mas cuando estan muy congestionadas, y son pesados, yo aconsejo mejor tener dos pc, una auxiliar sin conexion solo para guardar archivos, los cuales se pueden ir sacando en memorias usb hacia la pc de conexion cuando sean necesitadas, y tener la de uso con la menor carga posible y sin antivirus y no guardar alli ningun posible archivo que podria tener trojans o tener imagenes problematicas' es bueno resguardar los archivos en usb de resguardo y discos
yo siempre trabajo sin antivirus, y solo de vez en cuando desfragmento y limpio de archivos temporales y temp" y no tengo problemas
para mi los antivirus y programas complicados solo son obstrucciones en el buen funcionamiento de una pc de batalla"
asi sin archivos importantes existentes nada tendran que sacarte los hackers si entran, procura borrar seguido archivos temporales y cokies" ya que se podrian quedar imagenes virtuales alli que pueden ser secuestradas
despues pasas por revision los archivos que quieras guardar y ya los ordenas en carpetas especificas y usb especificos
yo se que nada tengo que ensenarte pero quizas seas aficionado a pesados antivirus, esos pueden estropear todo, tambien las pc laptop se da/nan si las maniobras funcionando el sistema moviendose lateral de lazer estropea el hard disk
solo queria ayudarte aunque se que tu sabes mucho, o ayudar a otros , saludos, y tambien yo espero consejos

[Esteban]

esteban: los antivirus son muy perjuiciosos para las pc, y mas cuando estan muy congestionadas, y son pesados, yo aconsejo mejor tener dos pc, una auxiliar sin conexion solo para guardar archivos, los cuales se pueden ir sacando en memorias usb hacia la pc de conexion cuando sean necesitadas, y tener la de uso con la menor carga posible y sin antivirus y no guardar alli ningun posible archivo que podria tener trojans o tener imagenes problematicas' es bueno resguardar los archivos en usb de resguardo y discos
yo siempre trabajo sin antivirus, y solo de vez en cuando desfragmento y limpio de archivos temporales y temp" y no tengo problemas
para mi los antivirus y programas complicados solo son obstrucciones en el buen funcionamiento de una pc de batalla"
asi sin archivos importantes existentes nada tendran que sacarte los hackers si entran, procura borrar seguido archivos temporales y cokies" ya que se podrian quedar imagenes virtuales alli que pueden ser secuestradas
despues pasas por revision los archivos que quieras guardar y ya los ordenas en carpetas especificas y usb especificos
yo se que nada tengo que ensenarte pero quizas seas aficionado a pesados antivirus, esos pueden estropear todo, tambien las pc laptop se da/nan si las maniobras funcionando el sistema moviendose lateral de lazer estropea el hard disk
solo queria ayudarte aunque se que tu sabes mucho, o ayudar a otros , saludos, y tambien yo espero consejos

Hola Detectoman.

Gracias! Es que un archivo del programa se alteró por algún motivo. Tienes razón, yo los archivos los tengo en un disco duro aparte, en la PC casi no tengo nada de mis archivos.

Saludos!!!

Esteban

[humhum]

In what principle works your LRL,its ionic/electrostatic ?

Are you sure about this distance,10.000 meters ?

Regards


Yes I'm sure for 10000 m İyonic and electrostatic target.

http://ul.to/vvd6fs

[Morgan]

Return. I had corrupted Windows file. Computer negate to start. C disc was formatted. First, files was saved on DVDs.

The modifications I make inside DC2008 are mine, are not part of Mineoro.

The original DC2008 (before modifications) can't detect metal in front. If your 2008 can detect metal in front, be happy! Tomorrow I'll ask Alonso about it.




Yes ,my DC2008 can detect metal in front,very sensitive to gold.Also the other one of my friend from spain...

And what about this PCB 5 you have in photo ,it comes with DC2008 or you adapt ?

Regards

[fmnotes]

HELLO.
THE ELECTRONIC DRAWINGS OF THIS MANUFACTURE,
CAN MY SEND HIM IN, SO THAT I MANUFACTURE ALSO I.
I AM HOLDER MINEORO FG80.
IF YOU CAN YOU SEND ME, THE DRAWINGS, YOU I THANK.

[Morgan]

HELLO.
THE ELECTRONIC DRAWINGS OF THIS MANUFACTURE,
CAN MY SEND HIM IN, SO THAT I MANUFACTURE ALSO I.
I AM HOLDER MINEORO FG80.
IF YOU CAN YOU SEND ME, THE DRAWINGS, YOU I THANK.



Yes,just explain better what you need and i think no problem someone will help you ...

As i understand you want to manufacture MINEORO ...:rolleyes:

[Morgan]

HELLO.
THE ELECTRONIC DRAWINGS OF THIS MANUFACTURE,
CAN MY SEND HIM IN, SO THAT I MANUFACTURE ALSO I.
I AM HOLDER MINEORO FG80.
IF YOU CAN YOU SEND ME, THE DRAWINGS, YOU I THANK.


Did you already found something with your FG 80 ???

[fmnotes]

GENTLEMEN HELLO.
AS I SAID TO YOU, I AM HOLDER FG80 MINEORO.
IT PRESENTED DAMAGE, REPAIRED TO ME HIM ONE GREEK, THAT HAS CLONING THE FG80,
THAT IS TO SAY IT COULD AND MANUFACTURED FROM THE START, NEW FG80.
AFTERWARDS THE REPAIR, IT DOES NOT WORK, AS IT WORKED, WHEN I BOUGHT HIM FROM FACTORY MINEORO.
I WANT TO MANUFACTURE NEW Pistoldetektor,
IF SOMEBODY HAS the ELECTRONIC DRAWING AND (PCB) IN ORDER TO MANUFACTURES Pistoldetektor, THAT WOULD WORK WELL,
I REQUEST MY IT SENDS HIM,
I THANK.

[Esteban]

GENTLEMEN HELLO.
AS I SAID TO YOU, I AM HOLDER FG80 MINEORO.
IT PRESENTED DAMAGE, REPAIRED TO ME HIM ONE GREEK, THAT HAS CLONING THE FG80,
THAT IS TO SAY IT COULD AND MANUFACTURED FROM THE START, NEW FG80.
AFTERWARDS THE REPAIR, IT DOES NOT WORK, AS IT WORKED, WHEN I BOUGHT HIM FROM FACTORY MINEORO.
I WANT TO MANUFACTURE NEW Pistoldetektor,
IF SOMEBODY HAS the ELECTRONIC DRAWING AND (PCB) IN ORDER TO MANUFACTURES Pistoldetektor, THAT WOULD WORK WELL,
I REQUEST MY IT SENDS HIM,
I THANK.

This can be re-manufactured with other method. But must be dissambled and re-build.

[fmnotes]

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CORRESPONDENCE.
IF YOU CAN HELP ME, YOU SEND THE ELECTRONIC DRAWINGS, AND THE PCB OF DRAWINGS,
SO AS TO I MANUFACTURE, A NEW DETECTOR OF PISTOLS,
BE RELIABLE FOR THE DETECTION OF GOLD, SUMS MONEY COST, IN ORDER TO I BUY HIM.
I THANK, I WAIT FOR THE ANSWER.

[Geo]

GENTLEMEN HELLO.
AS I SAID TO YOU, I AM HOLDER FG80 MINEORO.
IT PRESENTED DAMAGE, REPAIRED TO ME HIM ONE GREEK, THAT HAS CLONING THE FG80,
THAT IS TO SAY IT COULD AND MANUFACTURED FROM THE START, NEW FG80.
AFTERWARDS THE REPAIR, IT DOES NOT WORK, AS IT WORKED, WHEN I BOUGHT HIM FROM FACTORY MINEORO.
I WANT TO MANUFACTURE NEW Pistoldetektor,
IF SOMEBODY HAS the ELECTRONIC DRAWING AND (PCB) IN ORDER TO MANUFACTURES Pistoldetektor, THAT WOULD WORK WELL,
I REQUEST MY IT SENDS HIM,
I THANK.

Γαιτι δεν το στελνεις στη Μινεορο να το επισκευασει???

Why you don't send it to Mineoro, so to repare it???


Regards

[fmnotes]

ΜΟΝΟ ΜΕΤΑΦΟΡΙΚΑ ΜΕ FEDEX , ΘΕΛΩ 500 ΕΥΡΩ, ΜΙΛΗΣΑ ΜΑΖΙ ΤΟΥΣ,
ΤΩΡΑ ΠΟΥ ΜΟΥ ΤΟ ΕΠΙΣΚΕΥΑΣΑΝ ΕΔΩ ΣΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ , ΟΠΩΣΔΗΠΟΤΕ ΘΑ ΠΛΗΡΩΣΩ ΚΑΙ ΤΕΧΝΙΚΑ , ΤΙ ΚΑΝΟΥΜΕ ΤΕΛΙΚΑ ; ΤΙΠΟΤΑ. ΝΑ ΕΒΓΑΖΕ ΚΑΙ ΚΑΤΙ , ΘΑ ΠΩ ΑΞΙΖΕΙ ΑΛΛΑ ΕΝΑ ΧΡΟΝΟ ΠΟΥ ΤΟ ΕΧΩ ΤΙΠΟΤΑ,

[Geo]

ΜΟΝΟ ΜΕΤΑΦΟΡΙΚΑ ΜΕ FEDEX , ΘΕΛΩ 500 ΕΥΡΩ, ΜΙΛΗΣΑ ΜΑΖΙ ΤΟΥΣ,
ΤΩΡΑ ΠΟΥ ΜΟΥ ΤΟ ΕΠΙΣΚΕΥΑΣΑΝ ΕΔΩ ΣΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ , ΟΠΩΣΔΗΠΟΤΕ ΘΑ ΠΛΗΡΩΣΩ ΚΑΙ ΤΕΧΝΙΚΑ , ΤΙ ΚΑΝΟΥΜΕ ΤΕΛΙΚΑ ; ΤΙΠΟΤΑ. ΝΑ ΕΒΓΑΖΕ ΚΑΙ ΚΑΤΙ , ΘΑ ΠΩ ΑΞΙΖΕΙ ΑΛΛΑ ΕΝΑ ΧΡΟΝΟ ΠΟΥ ΤΟ ΕΧΩ ΤΙΠΟΤΑ,

Ουτε εγω με το δικο μου PDC-210 εκανα κατι. Παντως εχω ακουσει και δυο ιστοριες που εβγαλαν καθως και ενας με DCH85. Ολοι οι αλλοι γκρινιαζουν!!!!

[Morgan]

Ουτε εγω με το δικο μου PDC-210 εκανα κατι. Παντως εχω ακουσει και δυο ιστοριες που εβγαλαν καθως και ενας με DCH85. Ολοι οι αλλοι γκρινιαζουν!!!!


Geo,can you translate,what you say about PDC210 and DCH85 ??

Regards

[Qiaozhi]

Ουτε εγω με το δικο μου PDC-210 εκανα κατι. Παντως εχω ακουσει και δυο ιστοριες που εβγαλαν καθως και ενας με DCH85. Ολοι οι αλλοι γκρινιαζουν!!!!

Geo,can you translate,what you say about PDC210 and DCH85 ??

Regards
Translation: ;)
Neither myself with my PDC-210 has done something. Anyway I have heard two stories that turned out well and one DCH85. All other whining!

[Seden]

I'm with you Morgan, it's all Greek to me!

Randy

[Geo]

Translation: ;)
Neither myself with my PDC-210 has done something. Anyway I have heard two stories that turned out well and one DCH85. All other whining!

Hahaha.... Qiaozhi, very good translation. With other words, i hear two stories that they found treasure with the PDC..... and one story (i know this person) that found a treasure with a DCH.....
All the other .... Nothing.
I hope now Morgan and Seden to understand what i wrote in Greek

Regards:)

[takhslambos]

hi esteban did toy make some tests whith the pistol like mineoro.can you tell us the resolts?

[takhslambos]

I READ SOME WARE HERE THAT ESTEBAN WAS SICK.I WANT TO WISH HIM FAST RECOVERING AND ALL THE BEST FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY.

[Morgan]

I READ SOME WARE HERE THAT ESTEBAN WAS SICK.I WANT TO WISH HIM FAST RECOVERING AND ALL THE BEST FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY.


Yes,i wish complete recovering for Esteban.

Today i send a letter to know what is hapening with him,if i not get answer(as usual),i will send for the spanish man(Alonso´s friend ).
I think everyone here are missing Esteban...

[Geo]

Yes,i wish complete recovering for Esteban.

Today i send a letter to know what is hapening with him,if i not get answer(as usual),i will send for the spanish man(Alonso´s friend ).
I think everyone here are missing Esteban...


I spoke with him before few days. He is ok:), but need more time for full recover..

[Morgan]

I spoke with him before few days. He is ok:), but need more time for full recover..


Yes,and he answer my letter.
He said is recovering,and as soon as possible want return to Geotech forum.

14012

[WM6]

Yes,and he answer my letter.
He said is recovering,and as soon as possible want return to Geotech forum.



The best healthy wishes for Esteban.

[Geo]

Yes,and he answer my letter.
He said is recovering,and as soon as possible want return to Geotech forum.

14012

I have a friend that has problem at his eyes for 6 years. The recovering is not good.
I wish Esteban to don't be same case

[WM6]

I have a friend that has problem at his eyes for 6 years. The recovering is not good.
I wish Esteban to don't be same case

Important nutrition rule regarding recovering eye(sight) problems:

As much as possible coulored raw greeny foods and as low as posible meat and dairy products.

[aft_72005]

Also I am hope recover Esteban eyes soon, and god bless Esteban.

[aft_72005]

I have a friend that has problem at his eyes for 6 years. The recovering is not good.
I wish Esteban to don't be same case

It will be very bad news, if Esteban eyes will be with problems.:frown:

[Geo]

It will be very bad news, if Esteban eyes will be with problems.:frown:

No, i believe that Esteban is diferent case from the case of my friend!!!!:):)

Regards:)

[detectoman]

guys is very dangerous to we put us body in medical hands, i have an friend he today is in troubles due to five eyes operation, major, natural strategie, washing lemon whit water, and te other herbaceas, my best whises for esteban

[Esteban]

Hi friends

Thanks very much to all you.
I always eat few meat. As WM6 says, i drink juice prepared with chicory, parsley, celery, watercress and carrot. (not parrot :D)

Now my daughter write for me, because detailed things can't see.

Regards

Esteban

[WM6]

Hi friends

Thanks very much to all you.
I always eat few meat. As WM6 says, i drink juice prepared with chicory, parsley, celery, watercress and carrot. (not parrot :D)

Now my daughter write for me, because detailed things can't see.

Regards

Esteban

Hi Esteban

Stick to your meal and enjoy it.
Don't forget to Blueberries. Blueberries are so popular in Japan for maintaining healthy eyesight that they are known as "vision fruit". Please read this:
http://www.trueblueberry.com/blueberry/eyesight.asp

[Fred]

Get well Esteban, so we can fight again about LRL´s :)

[detectoman]

gracias a ti, hija de esteban por darnos noticias de nuestro querido hermano del grupo
thanks at you esteban´s daughter by give us news on dear brother,
GOD healt! to you esteban

[detectoman]

why put today esteban an hammer for avatar? may be say us he destroy all he lrls?
may be use he today an hammer how dowsing tegnique? may be may be
porque pondria ahora esteban un martillo como su avatar, quedra decir que destrozo todos sus lrls? o ahora usa ahora un martillo como dowsing?
saludesssssssssssssssssssss estebannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[J_Player]

Abarazos Esteban...
I am sure you know the stories of carrots and bilberries to help your eyes. And I know you will do what is best to recover.
We all miss you in the Geotech forums. And we all hope you recover so you can return with the rest of us to share your wealth of knowledge.

Very best of wishes to you
J_P

[aft_72005]

Get well Esteban, so we can fight again about LRL´s :)


Hi all
For me there isn’t fight . As my experiment , I believe electronic LRL now . There are electronic devises, can detect From some meter !!!!!!;):D:cool:

[aft_72005]

Hi friends

Thanks very much to all you.
I always eat few meat. As WM6 says, i drink juice prepared with chicory, parsley, celery, watercress and carrot. (not parrot :D)

Now my daughter write for me, because detailed things can't see.

Regards

Esteban


Hi Esteban :)
I am glad hearing your sound . I hope comeback your health completely as soon as .
There are more work doing about LRL !!!!!

[Geo]

Hi friends

Thanks very much to all you.
I always eat few meat. As WM6 says, i drink juice prepared with chicory, parsley, celery, watercress and carrot. (not parrot :D)

Now my daughter write for me, because detailed things can't see.

Regards

Esteban

Hi Esteban.
I am very glad who read you Here to forum.

I wish God to give you eagle eye, better than previous.

Best Regards:)

[FrancoItaly]

Hi Esteban
I'm very happy for you, if I will obtain some good results to build a workink LRL the merit it will be to your help. I have always believed to your affirmations and I have always respected your will not to reveal all the secrets...

Best Regards

[Morgan]

Hi friends

Thanks very much to all you.
I always eat few meat. As WM6 says, i drink juice prepared with chicory, parsley, celery, watercress and carrot. (not parrot :D)

Now my daughter write for me, because detailed things can't see.

Regards

Esteban


Hello Esteban,nice to see you again.

So,this hammer is to smach the LRL skeptics ??? :D

[Esteban]

I spoke with him before few days. He is ok:), but need more time for full recover..

Geo

I understand that "spoke" means conversation via e-mail :D:lol:

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

Hi friends

Thanks for all the imputs.

Esteban

[takhslambos]

Hi friends

Thanks for all the imputs.

Esteban i which you all the best.may god keep you in good helth.

[takhslambos]

you hade any news from any new pistol detector?

[Tim Williams]

Esteban its good to see you posting. I wish good health your way.

Tim

[Geo]

Geo

I understand that "spoke" means conversation via e-mail :D:lol:

Regards

Esteban

Yes, you understud right:lol:

Regards:)

[Locator]

Nice to "hear" you Esteban,i wish you fast and painless recovery!
And i am waiting you to continue our wonderful correspondence about LRL...!!!

My best wishes to you and to your family:

Christos

[Esteban]

Friends, again thanks very much!

Esteban

[nelson]

Hi Morgan.
Searching the forum old post i found this from you. So i will like tyo ask you, is this divice working good for you?
Had you got any gold?
Can this divice find a mine of gold for example?
In advance many thanks
Nelson


11531


Dont know what DC2008 you have in Paraguay,but my one detect gold and metal near the Ionic Chamber

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
Searching the forum old post i found this from you. So i will like tyo ask you, is this divice working good for you?
Had you got any gold?
Can this divice find a mine of gold for example?
In advance many thanks
Nelson

Nelson,forget this MINEOROS,they are not real LRL´s.

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
Searching the forum old post i found this from you. So i will like tyo ask you, is this divice working good for you?
Had you got any gold?
Can this divice find a mine of gold for example?
In advance many thanks
Nelson

Maybe with 1000 Kg of gold buried 1000 years ago,you can locate 10 m distance...
14705

[nelson]

Ok Morgan, so why some peolpe saids that mini zahori is similar to those expensive Mineoro LRL´S?
This means that zahori doesn´t work, or zahori is diferent divice that realy works?
In advance many thanks.
PD: rigth now i m drawing my actual coil for zahorie and i will post my scketch, so you can help me to decide if my actual antenna is ok or need to be modified. In deep i don`t know for shure if the distance btw L1 and L2 has something to do wit sensitivity.
Regards
Nelson

Maybe with 1000 Kg of gold buried 1000 years ago,you can locate 10 m distance...
14705

[fmnotes]

11539

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11539

Can explain to me the operation of this plan?
a same electronic circuit?
if anyone knows?

[Morgan]

11531


Dont know what DC2008 you have in Paraguay,but my one detect gold and metal near the Ionic Chamber

maybe this DC2008 is a FG(fresh gold) ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXt_HWG0ghE&t=17s

[Morgan]

Return. I had corrupted Windows file. Computer negate to start. C disc was formatted. First, files was saved on DVDs.

The modifications I make inside DC2008 are mine, are not part of Mineoro.

The original DC2008 (before modifications) can't detect metal in front. If your 2008 can detect metal in front, be happy! Tomorrow I'll ask Alonso about it.

yes,it detect metal in front, here the video with many years delay...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXt_HWG0ghE&t=17s

[Morgan]

Maybe with 1000 Kg of gold buried 1000 years ago,you can locate 10 m distance...
14705

sorry, i mean 1,00 meter distance :|

[Geo]

maybe this DC2008 is a FG(fresh gold) ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXt_HWG0ghE&t=17s

DC2008 and FG80 are exactly the same detectors.
Only difference the working frequency!!!

[Morgan]

hello Geo,hope you are fine,

can you show me where is the internal capacitor to change the frequency in the DC2008 ?

[Geo]

Hi Paulo.
I am fine, thanks.
You can change the C4 on the receiver.
I will try to find a photo to show you....

[Geo]

Morgan... see the capacitor inside the circle. :)

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=157287&postcount=15

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Geo, please give information on the coil...wire size, number of turns, total inductance...

[Geo]

Geo, please give information on the coil...wire size, number of turns, total inductance...

I don't know full details. What i know is Lprim = 2mH and Lsec= 1 turn.
On this transformer it has critical rule the ratio N1/N2 so you need to know the right permability of ferrite Pot Core.
I don't have full details because i had a crach on my Hard Disk (the 2nd crash) and i don't know if i have back up of this detector and at who CD.

[Morgan]

thanks for the info,

it seems the C4 is hide in the circuit with black resin... (?)

how can I take out this material?

[humhum]

Need to be near 680 :)

[Geo]

thanks for the info,

it seems the C4 is hide in the circuit with black resin... (?)

how can I take out this material?

Hello.
No need to take out this capacitor.
You can follow the schematics that will atach at next posts.
For the time i attach here the photo of the solder side of pcb.

[Geo]

Cut the tracks at point A and B as at photo (white color)

[Geo]

Conect (solder) a wire as the blue line.....

[Geo]

Now you can try any capacitor at new position of C4 :cool:

Regards :):)

[zakari]

hi geo
can you put the complete photo of sensor pcb solder side
best regard

zakari

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Geo, what is the specification of the coil? What is the inductance, how many turns, Ang wire size..thanks.

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Geo, can you complete the picture..the other half of the pcb solder side is missing...

[Geo]

hi geo
can you put the complete photo of sensor pcb solder side
best regard

zakari

Sensor (chamber) has n't pcb. It is fixed on a wooden plate.

[Geo]

Geo, what is the specification of the coil? What is the inductance, how many turns, Ang wire size..thanks.

You don't want nothing.....:nono:
Next time that will open a Mineoro i will destroy the input coil to measure the turns:rolleyes:

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Geo, why is it that in the picture above, point A & B is cut? Where is now the C4 connected?

[Geo]

C4 is connectd via blue line to C3.
C3 is the ((input capacitor)) of receiver

[zakari]

Sensor (chamber) has n't pcb. It is fixed on a wooden plate.
hi geo

my mean of sensor is that picture you upload at post 155&156.(magnetic receiver)

best regard

zakari

[Geo]

You are lucky... i found one.
Take it :cool:

[humhum]

Hi Geo , can you post also from Top side .

[Geo]

You are lucky too :lol:

Enjoy!!

[zakari]

You are lucky... i found one.
Take it :cool:
hi geo

thank you so much for your reply and picture


best regard
zakari

[humhum]

You are lucky too :lol:

Enjoy!!


Thanks You , dear Master .

[humhum]

Hi Geo , for what is this İnput ?
Maybe have two inputs .

[zakari]

Hi Geo , for what is this İnput ?
Maybe have two inputs .
hi humhum(yoldash)
that in input from ion chamber.
best regard


zakari

[Geo]

hi humhum(yoldash)
that in input from ion chamber.
best regard


zakari

.............. :thumb:

[humhum]

Yes Right , for İonic chamber , so it have İnside Oscillator and out stage with LM xxx and
germanium diodes . :)

[Geo]

I exchange the full schematic of Mineoro FG80 with the schematic of electric field detector wich Esteban use on "Pistol like Mineoro". I have it without all the values of components so i am looking for something complete.
:)

[Geo]

I exchange the full schematic of Mineoro FG80 with the schematic of electric field detector wich Esteban use on "Pistol like Mineoro". I have it without all the values of components so i am looking for something complete.
:)


The offer is no longer valid :)

[brasilpb]

I exchange the full schematic of Mineoro FG80 with the schematic of electric field detector wich Esteban use on "Pistol like Mineoro". I have it without all the values of components so i am looking for something complete.
:)


If it is possible to send mineoro FG80's scheme to me, I am very grateful!
gilvantexas@gmail.com

[abdou2014]

I exchange the full schematic of Mineoro FG80 with the schematic of electric field detector wich Esteban use on "Pistol like Mineoro". I have it without all the values of components so i am looking for something complete.
:)

Does your electric field detector have the same sensitivity as TDA ?
is it immune to interferences ?

[Geo]

I need more explain.
What is TDA....
What interferences do you mean???

[abdou2014]

I'm talking about power line interferences , when i'm in a hidden valley from power line , te lrl is stable , when I am discovered and in front of the electric line at 2 km it detects them :angry:

[abdou2014]

I use TDA7000 with amplifier very sensitive to electric field , with immunity against interferences, I can detect the phenomenon from long distance , it's all about the filter :)

[Geo]

I'm talking about power line interferences , when i'm in a hidden valley from power line , te lrl is stable , when I am discovered and in front of the electric line at 2 km it detects them :angry:

I have similar problem with electric detector, it needs a better 50Hz filter but i don't like it so i don't construct one!!!:lol:

[Geo]

I use TDA7000 with amplifier very sensitive to electric field , with immunity against interferences, I can detect the phenomenon from long distance , it's all about the filter :)

TDA7000 detects the magnetic or electromagnetic fields, not the electric fields.

[abdou2014]

do you have this electric detector circuit ?

[abdou2014]

TDA7000 detects the magnetic or electromagnetic fields, not the electric fields.

there are 2 methods and two different configuration with TDA7000

[Geo]

do you have this electric detector circuit ?

Yes, but i promised to don't give to anyone. :frown:

[abdou2014]

Thank you :frown:

[ali02]

Hello
Is it possible to send me a schematic file of this device?
Thank you

[Geo]

Nobody has the full schematic of this detector.
I never saw the schematic of this magnetic detector!!!:frown: , only from the electric detector.

[ali02]

Nobody has the full schematic of this detector.
I never saw the schematic of this magnetic detector!!!:frown: , only from the electric detector.
thank you
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