Zahori

[J_Player]

If the designers of these detectors (Mikron, Tesoro, Carl etc) have not problem, i have not any problem. For me it is better, if they gives cheap Kits to the People!!!

Regards:)But wait...
Suppose Mikron, Tesoro, Carl etc. have problems seeing their designs sold cheap to anyone who wants them. What then?

Will they change their business policy?
Will they hide their circuit boards in black epoxy?
Will they add an auto-destruct circuit with C-4 explosive to their boards? :???:

[Qiaozhi]

If the designers of these detectors (Mikron, Tesoro, Carl etc) have not problem, i have not any problem. For me it is better, if they gives cheap Kits to the People!!!

Regards:)
There may not be a problem with Hammerhead, but none of the other designs have been declared open-source.

[Morgan]

Hi all,

can we detect treasure under ground by E-Field detector that explain in
this address: http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/emotor/chargdet.html (http://www.eskimo.com/%7Ebillb/emotor/chargdet.html)

??? :D


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[g-sani]

Thank you very much Morgan but please tell us more about the antenna and how can somebody build it.
I know that it is put probably in some other post or theme allready but somebody that was active in those themes knows and also can find it much better.
Regards, g-sani

[Geo]

Thank you very much Morgan but please tell us more about the antenna and how can somebody build it.
I know that it is put probably in some other post or theme allready but somebody that was active in those themes knows and also can find it much better.
Regards, g-sani

Hi Gsani.
read this........ http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14731

Regards:)

[g-sani]

Much obliged Geo!

[Morgan]

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The mini zahory antenna with sample,gold or silver

[takhslambos]

The mini zahory antenna with sample,gold or silver
tell as about the field test?you made it?

[g-sani]

I have made both Morgan the mini & the regular one :lol:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1813/minizahory.th.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/minizahory.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5826/zahory.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/zahory.jpg/)

Also I have an antique wooden box ready to accomodate the big one

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9199/p1270492.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/p1270492.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Is the same aerial suitable for both ccts Morgan?
Thanks for helping

[takhslambos]

I have made both Morgan the mini & the regular one :lol:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1813/minizahory.th.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/minizahory.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5826/zahory.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/zahory.jpg/)

Also I have an antique wooden box ready to accomodate the big one

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9199/p1270492.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/p1270492.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Is the same aerial suitable for both ccts Morgan?
Thanks for helping
and it is working?you test it on the field?

[Morgan]

tell as about the field test?you made it?


I build it,but not detect small objects ,for this i have Alonso´s PD.
It is the Esteban´s words,he have found objects with Zahori,i supose some jesuitic treasure...

[Morgan]

I have made both Morgan the mini & the regular one :lol:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1813/minizahory.th.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/minizahory.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5826/zahory.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/zahory.jpg/)

Also I have an antique wooden box ready to accomodate the big one

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9199/p1270492.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/p1270492.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Is the same aerial suitable for both ccts Morgan?
Thanks for helping


Hello

You work very fast,congratulations.
This zahori will make the same work than any expensive MINEORO,you will see.
The box in wood is good,with plastic not work becouse charge with static.
Try this antenna i post today.

Good luck

[takhslambos]

I build it,but not detect small objects ,for this i have Alonso´s PD.
It is the Esteban´s words,he have found objects with Zahori,i supose some jesuitic treasure...
can you be more specific it locate big treasure?what treasure how big ? can locate one box with 5.000 gold coins buried 1 metre inside yhe ground?from what distance?

[takhslambos]

Hello

You work very fast,congratulations.
This zahori will make the same work than any expensive MINEORO,you will see.
The box in wood is good,with plastic not work becouse charge with static.
Try this antenna i post today.

Good luck
THE SAME WORK WITH MINEORO?YOU MEEN NO WORK AT ALL.......

[Morgan]

can you be more specific it locate big treasure?what treasure how big ? can locate one box with 5.000 gold coins buried 1 metre inside yhe ground?from what distance?


Of course,with corroded iron box containing 5000 gold pounds,you will have a nice BEEP on your Zahori ,20 meters away,i think...;)

Esteban catch jesuitic treasure 30m,but you know,in Paraguay rains a lot,so electromagnetic fields are more intensive.
Esteban also said the Andy Flind project works great for treasures,and is a simple MFD magnetic field locator.
Conclusion,all treasures in contact with ground,create electromagnetic waves.

[Morgan]

THE SAME WORK WITH MINEORO?YOU MEEN NO WORK AT ALL.......


Well,i can not say MINEORO is a pure crap.
OK,this MINI ZAHORI will work BETER THAN ANY EXPENSIVE MINEORO.8)

MINEORO is the LRL for rich people,but not work every day according instructions,umidity etc.
ZAHORI is the poor man´s gold locator,it will work every day in all weather conditions except heavy rain.:D

[g-sani]

and it is working?you test it on the field?

I am constructing it now takhslampos.
As soon as I finish I will test it in two places that there is treasure for real.
In one of them there is a small box put there in 1944 whith gold coins in it.It must be around 24kilos.It is about 70cm deep and I also confirmed it whith my deepmax X3.
We will see, I will post the test results here in the forum.

[g-sani]

Well,i can not say MINEORO is a pure crap.
OK,this MINI ZAHORI will work BETER THAN ANY EXPENSIVE MINEORO.8)

MINEORO is the LRL for rich people,but not work every day according instructions,umidity etc.
ZAHORI is the poor man´s gold locator,it will work every day in all weather conditions except heavy rain.:D

Hi Morgan
So you say that humidity doesn't matter at all?
This is good news then.
I would like to ask you about the aerial again.Do I have to conect the gold sample directly whith the wire on it?What quantity do I have to use?
L1 & L2 is just one turn thick copper wire and from what thickness?
I will construct it from what I understand and then probably you can help.
Thanks a lot
g-sani

[takhslambos]

Well,i can not say MINEORO is a pure crap.
OK,this MINI ZAHORI will work BETER THAN ANY EXPENSIVE MINEORO.8)

MINEORO is the LRL for rich people,but not work every day according instructions,umidity etc.
ZAHORI is the poor man´s gold locator,it will work every day in all weather conditions except heavy rain.:D
ok then because i all ready own a mineoro i will like to build a zahori in order to compare both lrl and post the resolts here.can you give me all the details for the zahori?shematic materials etc?

[takhslambos]

morrgan i hade one more question what is better zahori or mini zahori?or is the same?

[g-sani]

ok then because i all ready own a mineoro i will like to build a zahori in order to compare both lrl and post the resolts here.can you give me all the details for the zahori?shematic materials etc?

Look at the post 253 for the schematic takhslampos and then follows its aerial and this is it.

[takhslambos]

Look at the post 253 for the schematic takhslampos and then follows its aerial and this is it.
what you meen by aerial?

[g-sani]

what you meen by aerial?

I am talking about the antenna

[Morgan]

ok then because i all ready own a mineoro i will like to build a zahori in order to compare both lrl and post the resolts here.can you give me all the details for the zahori?shematic materials etc?


Everything you need...

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan
So you say that humidity doesn't matter at all?
This is good news then.
I would like to ask you about the aerial again.Do I have to conect the gold sample directly whith the wire on it?What quantity do I have to use?
L1 & L2 is just one turn thick copper wire and from what thickness?
I will construct it from what I understand and then probably you can help.
Thanks a lot
g-sani


hello

L1,L2,use wire 2 mm is ok not very important if you use also 1 mm wire.

The gold sample you can use very little amount,but the wire aroud the gold must be enameled and touch direct the sample. You can make exacly like the plans in picture,use the wood box like Pistoldetector or the other like Mineoro.

PS-I´m optimistic about this project becouse two people from this forum sent me Emails about gold finds with the Mini Zahori using this antenna.In both,finds was superior of 1kg. I´m wondering,why they not give me nothing...Well the project is no mine,only the antenna.

Regards

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan
So you say that humidity doesn't matter at all?
This is good news then.
I would like to ask you about the aerial again.Do I have to conect the gold sample directly whith the wire on it?What quantity do I have to use?
L1 & L2 is just one turn thick copper wire and from what thickness?
I will construct it from what I understand and then probably you can help.
Thanks a lot
g-sani

About humidity,better you search when the ground is not very wet.

[takhslambos]

Everything you need...
i need all the informations about the zahori in order to start bulding it.please sent it to me in my email koykoynas1@yahoo.gr THANKS FOR YOUR TIME..........

[Morgan]

i need all the informations about the zahori in order to start bulding it.please sent it to me in my email koykoynas1@yahoo.gr THANKS FOR YOUR TIME..........


Two mini zahori PCB´s
They can work with 9v or 18v
Ignore the part BFO,becouse its another project.

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[Morgan]

i need all the informations about the zahori in order to start bulding it.please sent it to me in my email koykoynas1@yahoo.gr THANKS FOR YOUR TIME..........


L1 can be 8 cm

L2 12 cm

[Morgan]

i need all the informations about the zahori in order to start bulding it.please sent it to me in my email koykoynas1@yahoo.gr THANKS FOR YOUR TIME..........


You can connect instead of headphones ,one BUZZER and it creates the sound like all MINEORO.

[takhslambos]

it is more stable than mineoro?

[g-sani]

I would like to ask your opinion about the gold sample antenna and an idea that came into my head.
Has anyone used gold wires for L1 & L2 and also gold wire in 10 turns arround a ferite or even a nail?
Would it be any good in sensitivity regarding to gold detection?
Why people came up whith the idea of a gold sample when they can use soft 24cts wire to make their antennas?
Just a thought! :D

[Morgan]

it is more stable than mineoro?


much more stable,no false signals

[Morgan]

I would like to ask your opinion about the gold sample antenna and an idea that came into my head.
Has anyone used gold wires for L1 & L2 and also gold wire in 10 turns arround a ferite or even a nail?
Would it be any good in sensitivity regarding to gold detection?
Why people came up whith the idea of a gold sample when they can use soft 24cts wire to make their antennas?
Just a thought! :D


Good ideias,maybe can work more sensitive to gold using gold antenna L1,but L2 no need .
I never heard about soft 24 k wire...
The sample for zahori,is working in this way as i build the antenna,so when you locate a taget,not dig,and use to test with other antennas,and chose the more efective.

[mesy64]

hi morgan
did add class preamplifier and then the amplifier sensitivity and more stable system is appropriate?
What is Add this category ?

[Tim Williams]

About humidity,better you search when the ground is not very wet.


Have you tested different spacing between antenna coils from each other? I will build one and test and let you know.

[epitopios]

Good ideias,maybe can work more sensitive to gold using gold antenna L1,but L2 no need .
I never heard about soft 24 k wire...
The sample for zahori,is working in this way as i build the antenna,so when you locate a taget,not dig,and use to test with other antennas,and chose the more efective.
it can be made , its a matter of partners, and I think the best solution = 22 carats
http://i.imgur.com/XWKKi.jpg

and also about your post 278
http://i.imgur.com/Ywh8D.jpg its already , ready !!!

and of course , special wooden box : http://i.imgur.com/RfkFp.jpg
Regards , epitopios 73s

[takhslambos]

it can be made , its a matter of partners, and I think the best solution = 22 carats
http://i.imgur.com/XWKKi.jpg

and also about your post 278
http://i.imgur.com/Ywh8D.jpg its already , ready !!!

and of course , special wooden box : http://i.imgur.com/RfkFp.jpg
Regards , epitopios 73s
hade you test it on the field?

[g-sani]

Good ideias,maybe can work more sensitive to gold using gold antenna L1,but L2 no need .
I never heard about soft 24 k wire...
The sample for zahori,is working in this way as i build the antenna,so when you locate a taget,not dig,and use to test with other antennas,and chose the more efective.

Hi Morgan,
Thank you for helping us.I can understand that all this that we ask for help might be boring not only for you but also for all the rest of the people that they were participating in this thread from the time it started.
I know you are repeating the same things all over and some others watching us and read them again and again.
Best thing to happen will be something new to come up paying off at the end of the day.
May be will be my idea of using wires made of gold in some critical places when it comes to the antenna. Who knows? I am personally ready to try many different ideas to see whats going on.
Of course you can order some 24k wire from any jewelry shop. It is not going to be such expensive plus you got your money there anytime needed. :lol:
I let you know when I test it.
Best whishes
g-sani

[mehdi]

Two mini zahori PCB´s
They can work with 9v or 18v
Ignore the part BFO,becouse its another project.

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hi
i cant veiw the images !!!!
please mail me the images please.:frown:
mehdi1m2m@yahoo.com
regards

[castafx]

Dear sir;
how much can this device detect for me, if make it? what metals can this device detect for me?
how is this device complete Zahori article for download and make it?
Thanks

[Morgan]

hi morgan
did add class preamplifier and then the amplifier sensitivity and more stable system is appropriate?
What is Add this category ?

I think this Mini Zahori no need any extra amplifier for upgrade sensitivity,this maybe make erratic sounds...

[Morgan]

Have you tested different spacing between antenna coils from each other? I will build one and test and let you know.
Hi Tim

Zahori is not the LRL´s dream,personaly i can say that it works with large objects becouse two people from this forum told me they found something,but me personaly can not tell if they lie or not.
Yes,you can try,its a cheap and fast project.
About antenna coil there is a lot of ideias,but this loop i post seems to be working.

Regards

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan,
Thank you for helping us.I can understand that all this that we ask for help might be boring not only for you but also for all the rest of the people that they were participating in this thread from the time it started.
I know you are repeating the same things all over and some others watching us and read them again and again.
Best thing to happen will be something new to come up paying off at the end of the day.
May be will be my idea of using wires made of gold in some critical places when it comes to the antenna. Who knows? I am personally ready to try many different ideas to see whats going on.
Of course you can order some 24k wire from any jewelry shop. It is not going to be such expensive plus you got your money there anytime needed. :lol:
I let you know when I test it.
Best whishes
g-sani


Hello

I want to remember,the ZAHORI is a project already done in this forum. Most of people who have built,told not work for them,and acuse Esteban of false information. The diferent thing,all of them use telescopic antenna,no gold or silver sample,and like this where is the eletromagnetic resonance of gold for finding gold?
The gold sample inside the coil get charge for start the resonating process,i believe its working this way.

Regards

[Morgan]

Dear sir;
how much can this device detect for me, if make it? what metals can this device detect for me?
how is this device complete Zahori article for download and make it?
Thanks

Its very simple project. You can find here all you need.
According people wo build,they said distances around 20 m for big object.

[epitopios]

to Morgan : watch your post 253 schematic mini Zahori and post 257 antenna ( L1 and L2 )
maybe , you are wrong ?
L2 do not connect to ground but R2=20K potensiometer ??? correct ???
or corrected me !!!
regards epitopios

[g-sani]

Its very simple project. You can find here all you need.
According people wo build,they said distances around 20 m for big object.

Hi Morgan,
When everybody says the same thing(has the same opinion) then the most probable thing is that this is the truth.
If some say this and some say that then the only way to find the truth is only if you investigate it youself.
This is why I decided to build it myself.
Also another reason for this decision of mine is that I know very well that from all the people they build it maybe only a few have done it properly.
One used a plastic box, one used something else than CA3140, one used long wires somebody else made it to work at 4.5V when above 4V is a problem and e.t.c,...e.t.c.....
Even those that they followed the right path there is always the case that they didn't have a 'live' target to test it.Just going out looking at the so called "hot places" means nothing to me.Sorry but this is not a test.
Apart from that I am a person that likes analysing something and getting all those small catches or hints to make the job perfect even when this is a project that small as the mini zaxori.
I don't know why but I believe in Estebans words that somebody can discover treasure whith it.May be he knows something more or he knows what extra modification needed to add more detecting range to it.Anyway, whatever anybody can offer is great news for all of us and personally I respect it.
Best whishes
g-sani

[Morgan]

to Morgan : watch your post 253 schematic mini Zahori and post 257 antenna ( L1 and L2 )
maybe , you are wrong ?
L2 do not connect to ground but R2=20K potensiometer ??? correct ???
or corrected me !!!
regards epitopios


L2 connect to Potenciometer,its the same in the other Zahori(more big)connect Pot to Parabolic dish.
Stay like this.

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan,
When everybody says the same thing(has the same opinion) then the most probable thing is that this is the truth.
If some say this and some say that then the only way to find the truth is only if you investigate it youself.
This is why I decided to build it myself.
Also another reason for this decision of mine is that I know very well that from all the people they build it maybe only a few have done it properly.
One used a plastic box, one used something else than CA3140, one used long wires somebody else made it to work at 4.5V when above 4V is a problem and e.t.c,...e.t.c.....
Even those that they followed the right path there is always the case that they didn't have a 'live' target to test it.Just going out looking at the so called "hot places" means nothing to me.Sorry but this is not a test.
Apart from that I am a person that likes analysing something and getting all those small catches or hints to make the job perfect even when this is a project that small as the mini zaxori.
I don't know why but I believe in Estebans words that somebody can discover treasure whith it.May be he knows something more or he knows what extra modification needed to add more detecting range to it.Anyway, whatever anybody can offer is great news for all of us and personally I respect it.
Best whishes
g-sani

Hi
The Zahori build by Esteteban consist in complex antenna ,i even not try becouse find confused with Esteban´s information about telescopic antenna...
I also like to analize the LRL performance of any LRL,but here my best spot is one gold medal buried more than 20 years ago,my first test place for old BFO and VLF detectors.
Unfortunatly the treasures are rare here...

Regards

[g-sani]

Hi
The Zahori build by Esteteban consist in complex antenna ,i even not try becouse find confused with Esteban´s information about telescopic antenna...
I also like to analize the LRL performance of any LRL,but here my best spot is one gold medal buried more than 20 years ago,my first test place for old BFO and VLF detectors.
Unfortunatly the treasures are rare here...

Regards

Hi Morgan, I will help you in my way when I will have it ready.
Twenty years probably is not bad for a burried medal as a test target but weight is a factor as well.Even if this medal is 200grms I believe it is not enough in relation to the time it is burried.
You are always invited over here to test any LRL you like in real conditions.Apart from your tickets everything else will be on the house.
We will invite Geo as well! But I am sure he has done it allready(inviting you).
Well you can always come together since we are only an hour apart by car.
In any case I will make a video while testing so everybody will have an oportunity to see it working in the field.
All the best
g-sani

[goldfinder]

I would like to ask your opinion about the gold sample antenna and an idea that came into my head.
Has anyone used gold wires for L1 & L2 and also gold wire in 10 turns arround a ferite or even a nail?
Would it be any good in sensitivity regarding to gold detection?
Why people came up whith the idea of a gold sample when they can use soft 24cts wire to make their antennas?
Just a thought! :D
Your idea is good. I used it about 15 years ago when I was testing LRL electronic dowsing. It actually seemed to work much better. The energy line to a gold sample was stronger. I had a psychic friend at the time who could see the energy lines and they were more intense with the gold wire antenna. I used helical antenna theory to design the antenna. I think I still have the antenna in my junk box.
Goldfinder

[Qiaozhi]

Your idea is good. I used it about 15 years ago when I was testing LRL electronic dowsing. It actually seemed to work much better. The energy line to a gold sample was stronger. I had a psychic friend at the time who could see the energy lines and they were more intense with the gold wire antenna. I used helical antenna theory to design the antenna. I think I still have the antenna in my junk box.
Goldfinder
You should leave it in the junk box where it belongs. :lol:

[WM6]

...... with the gold wire antenna. . I think I still have the antenna in my junk box. ....




"gold wire antenna" in junk box?

Now, you need only good metal detector to find it.

[nelson]

Hi there.
Does anyone know replacements for BC239 and 2N3819

I m also sending to the post, my version of small zahorie PCB, made on sprint layout.
If there is any errors just let me know.

Regards

Nelson


Two mini zahori PCB´s
They can work with 9v or 18v
Ignore the part BFO,becouse its another project.

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[mesy64]

hi Morgan
i built mini zahori. I'm testing the device. How should I know if this device works or not????
Please help me to build my antennas in building antennas for these devices have problems
I made the antenna look like the image below it is correct?
I'm testing device must understand how the system works or not?
Regards

[mehdi]

hi to all
wath is the better?
mini zahori or this shematic?
i built that and work very good. ;)

[epitopios]

Or try this , I make it and it works

[epitopios]

to Morgan , one question ???
Regards , epitopios .

[g-sani]

Your idea is good. I used it about 15 years ago when I was testing LRL electronic dowsing. It actually seemed to work much better. The energy line to a gold sample was stronger. I had a psychic friend at the time who could see the energy lines and they were more intense with the gold wire antenna. I used helical antenna theory to design the antenna. I think I still have the antenna in my junk box.
Goldfinder

Hi Goldfinder,
I will really appreciate it if by any chance is easy to show us your helical design antenna.
I practise dowsing as well and I am always thinking of different dowsing tools, electronic or not.

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan, I will help you in my way when I will have it ready.
Twenty years probably is not bad for a burried medal as a test target but weight is a factor as well.Even if this medal is 200grms I believe it is not enough in relation to the time it is burried.
You are always invited over here to test any LRL you like in real conditions.Apart from your tickets everything else will be on the house.
We will invite Geo as well! But I am sure he has done it allready(inviting you).
Well you can always come together since we are only an hour apart by car.
In any case I will make a video while testing so everybody will have an oportunity to see it working in the field.
All the best
g-sani


Hello

And you have some places where you think can be burried some treasures?
You are from U.S.A or other country ? Its interesting to make TH in countries where its possible to do without breaking laws.
Tanks for invitation.

Regards

[Morgan]

to Morgan , one question ???
Regards , epitopios .


Yes

[mesy64]

hi Morgan
i built mini zahori. I'm testing the device. How should I know if this device works or not????
Please help me to build my antennas in building antennas for these devices have problems

[g-sani]

Hello

And you have some places where you think can be burried some treasures?
You are from U.S.A or other country ? Its interesting to make TH in countries where its possible to do without breaking laws.
Tanks for invitation.

Regards

Hi Morgan, check this post of mine bellow the post number. It says: Location:Greece.
To do TH over here you need to aply for a special licence and ussually as long as it is not a known archeological place you get the permision for excavation.
Many Regards
g-sani

[mehdi]

hi morgan
please clearly description the antenna specially L2; conect to ground or R9?!!
please reply
thanks
mehdi

[epitopios]

to mehdi :
if it will help you , see what i have done last night

ZAHORI ANTENNA
Before :
http://i.imgur.com/syozx.jpg
and after :
http://i.imgur.com/TlGEf.jpg
and with a simple pcb
http://i.imgur.com/941Fi.jpg

regards , epitopios

[mehdi]

Hi epitopios
thanks for reply
i send to you a private message at title (zahori). please read that.
regards
mehdi

[epitopios]

2 fotos from zahori

[Zocky-Zocky]

For "nelson"!
Replacement for BC239 is: BC184 and BC549.
Replacement for 2N3819 is: 2N3823; BF244 and BF245.
Regards!
Zocky-Zocky

[nelson]

Hi Zocky and thanks a lot for your help.
I already building zahori, but 2N3819 is not easy to find here in my country, so yesterday i ordered a few.
By the way, did you try this circuit?
If so, what about results.
Regards
Nelson


For "nelson"!
Replacement for BC239 is: BC184 and BC549.
Replacement for 2N3819 is: 2N3823; BF244 and BF245.
Regards!
Zocky-Zocky

[Zocky-Zocky]

Hi Zocky and thanks a lot for your help.
I already building zahori, but 2N3819 is not easy to find here in my country, so yesterday i ordered a few.
By the way, did you try this circuit?
If so, what about results.
Regards
Nelson

Hi nelson!
Yesterday I got to circuit. These days I'll try it out and the results published in this topic.
Regards!
Zocky-Zocky

[nelson]

Hi Morgan.
I will like to know, if is posible to use an 18 or 24 K gold ring instead of a small gold bar, has a sample?
Also if you replace gold sample by silver, whats going to happens?
Regards
Nelson


The mini zahory antenna with sample,gold or silver

[nelson]

Hi epitopios
I will like to know what sounds does mini zahori made. I just finish the circuit and made just smal test without the antena, just smal wires, and the divice sound like detecting static electricity, but not a tone. I m using a buzzer
I know i must made the antenna, so tomorrow after work if i have the time, i will star building the antenna.
About gold sample, do you know if i can use a gold ring, instead of a small bar of gold?
My email is ce3llp@mi.cl , so if you whant to exchange expiriencies, will be glad to my
In advance many thanks
Regards
Nelson



it can be made , its a matter of partners, and I think the best solution = 22 carats
http://i.imgur.com/XWKKi.jpg

and also about your post 278
http://i.imgur.com/Ywh8D.jpg its already , ready !!!

and of course , special wooden box : http://i.imgur.com/RfkFp.jpg
Regards , epitopios 73s

[nelson]

Hi my firnd.
Do you tested your zahori?
Mine need only the antenna and the wood box
Regards
Nelson

Hi nelson!
Yesterday I got to circuit. These days I'll try it out and the results published in this topic.
Regards!
Zocky-Zocky

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
I will like to know, if is posible to use an 18 or 24 K gold ring instead of a small gold bar, has a sample?
Also if you replace gold sample by silver, whats going to happens?
Regards
Nelson


You can replace the gold bar for the ring,i think the important is the coil 10 or 12 turns around the gold for resonate.
If you use silver instead of gold,i supose the zahori become more sensitive to silver,but i´m sure it will find the gold also.
When have mor time i go to make more tests with my zahori,i remember ´to use one buzzer for production of sound like MINEORO.

[nelson]

Hi Morgan
Ok, tomorrow i will try to build the antena. Has i understood, L1 is 8 cms in diameter and L2 is 12 cms in diameter, both can use 1 to 2 mm insulated wire, and both uses just one turn correct?
Also, on L2 goes to R9 and the other end of L2 is not connected, correct?
L1 conects to 2N3819 and the other leng finish on 10 turns over gold bar and then no conection.
What is the distance btw. L1 and L2?
Whats the correct position of 2N3819, where goes S, G and D. Can you show me that on the schematics??
Sorry for made to many questions Morgan, but i m just an experimenter with little knolegment of electronics.
I had try the circuit with just small wires for L1 and L2, but no sound like mineoro comes from my buzzer, is this normal and after the antenna is made, sound changes or you just keep lestening to currents?
Finally, potentiometers, how i must set up this, are they all goes in to the front panel or just a few of them?
In advance many thanks and i promeses full report of my field test with zahori.
Regards
Nelson


You can replace the gold bar for the ring,i think the important is the coil 10 or 12 turns around the gold for resonate.
If you use silver instead of gold,i supose the zahori become more sensitive to silver,but i´m sure it will find the gold also.
When have mor time i go to make more tests with my zahori,i remember ´to use one buzzer for production of sound like MINEORO.

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan
Ok, tomorrow i will try to build the antena. Has i understood, L1 is 8 cms in diameter and L2 is 12 cms in diameter, both can use 1 to 2 mm insulated wire, and both uses just one turn correct?
Also, on L2 goes to R9 and the other end of L2 is not connected, correct?
L1 conects to 2N3819 and the other leng finish on 10 turns over gold bar and then no conection.
What is the distance btw. L1 and L2?
Whats the correct position of 2N3819, where goes S, G and D. Can you show me that on the schematics??
Sorry for made to many questions Morgan, but i m just an experimenter with little knolegment of electronics.
I had try the circuit with just small wires for L1 and L2, but no sound like mineoro comes from my buzzer, is this normal and after the antenna is made, sound changes or you just keep lestening to currents?
Finally, potentiometers, how i must set up this, are they all goes in to the front panel or just a few of them?
In advance many thanks and i promeses full report of my field test with zahori.
Regards
Nelson


L1 is single turn loop,and the wire who comes from 2N3819 make some turns direct in the gold sample and finaly connect to L1.
The sound like MINEORO is made by special BUZZER,but for test the zahori you can use headphones.

[nelson]

Hi Morgan
Today i finish my antenna and use a gold ring that i found on my trips for treasure hunting
Here are pictures that i got from my antenna.
Now, when i connect zahori to 9 volts battery, my buzzer makes some noises like AC current. Inded i conected my oscilloscope to G leg of 2n3819, and the sound stopped, but i notice that my osciloscope shows a 50 hz frequency, that seems for me that zahorie is getting AC current from my house.
So, could you tell me what sound looks like and if my 2n3819 is connected correct has i show you on the schematics?
What other test i can do with my oscilloscope.
By the way my zahorie is not mounted on a wood box jet.
Also what settings should i get with pots?
What do you mean with special buzzer? What kind shoul i use?
In advance many thanks
Regards
Nelson


L1 is single turn loop,and the wire who comes from 2N3819 make some turns direct in the gold sample and finaly connect to L1.
The sound like MINEORO is made by special BUZZER,but for test the zahori you can use headphones.

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan
Today i finish my antenna and use a gold ring that i found on my trips for treasure hunting
Here are pictures that i got from my antenna.
Now, when i connect zahori to 9 volts battery, my buzzer makes some noises like AC current. Inded i conected my oscilloscope to G leg of 2n3819, and the sound stopped, but i notice that my osciloscope shows a 50 hz frequency, that seems for me that zahorie is getting AC current from my house.
So, could you tell me what sound looks like and if my 2n3819 is connected correct has i show you on the schematics?
What other test i can do with my oscilloscope.
By the way my zahorie is not mounted on a wood box jet.
Also what settings should i get with pots?
What do you mean with special buzzer? What kind shoul i use?
In advance many thanks
Regards
Nelson


I go to put photos of my zahori,and you will see how it works.
This wire around the ring seems very big,but maybe work...
When you switch ON your zahori,you must do this not near electrical instruments or ligths.

[nelson]

Ok Morgan and thanks.
Can you show me where D, G, S legs of 2N3819connect to, please?
I use 1.6 mm enameled wire around the ring and also to build both coils L1 and L2. Just one turn for coils and 10 turns around the ring.

I moved my zahori away from any electrical devices, but it stays with no sound at all. Can you tell me how to know if it realy working?

Best regards

Nelson


Hi Morgan
Today i finish my antenna and use a gold ring that i found on my trips for treasure hunting
Here are pictures that i got from my antenna.
Now, when i connect zahori to 9 volts battery, my buzzer makes some noises like AC current. Inded i conected my oscilloscope to G leg of 2n3819, and the sound stopped, but i notice that my osciloscope shows a 50 hz frequency, that seems for me that zahorie is getting AC current from my house.
So, could you tell me what sound looks like and if my 2n3819 is connected correct has i show you on the schematics?
What other test i can do with my oscilloscope.
By the way my zahorie is not mounted on a wood box jet.
Also what settings should i get with pots?
What do you mean with special buzzer? What kind shoul i use?
In advance many thanks
Regards
Nelson

[nelson]

Is there anyone that can help with my questions made on my message below this one?
Regards
Nelson


Ok Morgan and thanks.
Can you show me where D, G, S legs of 2N3819connect to, please?
I use 1.6 mm enameled wire around the ring and also to build both coils L1 and L2. Just one turn for coils and 10 turns around the ring.

I moved my zahori away from any electrical devices, but it stays with no sound at all. Can you tell me how to know if it realy working?

Best regards

Nelson

[Geo]

Is there anyone that can help with my questions made on my message below this one?
Regards
Nelson

What are you mean???
Your schematic writes it

Regards

[nelson]

Hi Geo, i need to know where legs of 2N3819 are conected. For me is just like i have marqued on the picture below with a red circle.
Also what sounds should i spect from zahorie. I m using a piezzo for sound
In advance many thanks.
Nelson

What are you mean???
Your schematic writes it

Regards

[Geo]

Hi Geo, i need to know where legs of 2N3819 are conected. For me is just like i have marqued on the picture below with a red circle.
Also what sounds should i spect from zahorie. I m using a piezzo for sound
In advance many thanks.
Nelson

Hi. Connect the 2N3819 as the schematic. If you don't know who is the sourse or the gate etc... look fot datasheet.
At the output you must connect a speaker.

Regards:)

[nelson]

Ok Geo and thanks
I have connected has show on the picture (red circle) of my previus message, but sounds still like 50 or 60 hz energy
Regards
Nelson



Hi. Connect the 2N3819 as the schematic. If you don't know who is the sourse or the gate etc... look fot datasheet.
At the output you must connect a speaker.

Regards:)

[Morgan]

Hi Geo, i need to know where legs of 2N3819 are conected. For me is just like i have marqued on the picture below with a red circle.
Also what sounds should i spect from zahorie. I m using a piezzo for sound
In advance many thanks.
Nelson

You can try also with headphones,go near your TV screen,it must sounds 3 or 4 meters.

[Morgan]

Ok Geo and thanks
I have connected has show on the picture (red circle) of my previus message, but sounds still like 50 or 60 hz energy
Regards
Nelson


Hello Nelson

If you not get any sounds ,disconnect your antenna and connect to the transistor Gate,one single turn loop ,wire 1,5 or 2 mm,15 cm diameter. If with this not work,your circuit is not correct.Use with headphones.

Regards

[Morgan]

Ok Geo and thanks
I have connected has show on the picture (red circle) of my previus message, but sounds still like 50 or 60 hz energy
Regards
Nelson


NOT USE PLASTIC BOX,it will overload the circuit with STATIC ENERGY.

[g-sani]

You can try also with headphones,go near your TV screen,it must sounds 3 or 4 meters.

Hi Morgan, mine beeps at about 2m from the tv screen but I didn't put it in a box yet.
Antenna is builded as you proposed.
Somebody told me that if you want to check it properly using a tv set you have to switch the tv on and then off and try to test it afterwards(whith the tv switched off).
Is that so?

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Morgan, mine beeps at about 2m from the tv screen but I didn't put it in a box yet.
Antenna is builded as you proposed.
Somebody told me that if you want to check it properly using a tv set you have to switch the tv on and then off and try to test it afterwards(whith the tv switched off).
Is that so?
I think it needs to be a TV with a CRT, not an LCD display. The Zahori can pick up the signal from the EHT.

[g-sani]

Of course it has to be a CRT. But do you test just after switching off Qiaozhi?

[WM6]

Of course it has to be a CRT. But do you test just after switching off Qiaozhi?



If you mean switching off CRT TV then "switch off" mean nothing. Residual static voltage of CRT can be prolonged for hours. If you open TV and try to touch CRT shielding with your finger after "switch off" you can sense this voltage way better than your Zahori (almost unforgetable).

[Qiaozhi]

If you open TV and try to touch CRT shielding with your finger after "switch off" you can sense this voltage way better than your Zahori (almost unforgetable).
:lol:

[nelson]

Hi Morgan and all friends from the forum.
Whell, yes my zahorie, without the box, can hear the noise from my tv from about 2 meters.
Tomorrow i will place the hole circuit on a wood box. Then after that i will take a video to show you on youtube.
I still don´t know what are the setting for the 3 variable resistors and also what sound should i expect from zahori.
I belive that when you get close to a 220 volts AC , 50 hz, is normal to hear a current noise coming from the buzzer.
So if anyone has more practice and expirencies with it, let me know what should i look to know if this is working or not.
The circuit was checked 3 times and looks fine.
I hope someone can help me to understand this, that looks very nice project to try and experiment.
Regards
Nelson


You can try also with headphones,go near your TV screen,it must sounds 3 or 4 meters.

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan, mine beeps at about 2m from the tv screen but I didn't put it in a box yet.
Antenna is builded as you proposed.
Somebody told me that if you want to check it properly using a tv set you have to switch the tv on and then off and try to test it afterwards(whith the tv switched off).
Is that so?


Well,this depends on TV size,i have one big TV,and for test the Zahori your television must be ON.

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan and all friends from the forum.
Whell, yes my zahorie, without the box, can hear the noise from my tv from about 2 meters.
Tomorrow i will place the hole circuit on a wood box. Then after that i will take a video to show you on youtube.
I still don´t know what are the setting for the 3 variable resistors and also what sound should i expect from zahori.
I belive that when you get close to a 220 volts AC , 50 hz, is normal to hear a current noise coming from the buzzer.
So if anyone has more practice and expirencies with it, let me know what should i look to know if this is working or not.
The circuit was checked 3 times and looks fine.
I hope someone can help me to understand this, that looks very nice project to try and experiment.
Regards
Nelson


Yes,nice and cheap project,this save your wallet from expensive MINEORO and other LRL´s in the market. Results will be the same(or better) and you save you money.

Happy hunting

[nelson]

OK Morgan, but what about the kind of sound and how to set up the 3 potenciometers?
Regards?
Nelson


Yes,nice and cheap project,this save your wallet from expensive MINEORO and other LRL´s in the market. Results will be the same(or better) and you save you money.

Happy hunting

[Morgan]

OK Morgan, but what about the kind of sound and how to set up the 3 potenciometers?
Regards?
Nelson


R9 midle pot.

R8,R10 play with them near TV until get the best distance.
Not forget my Zahori was connected to BFO,was diferent from your

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[nelson]

Ok Morgan, son can you show me how to add the BFO and i assume that the BFO allow you to tune the detector on some frequency spectrum?
Thanks for the pictures and , don´t forget to tell me if the 2N3819 legs are connected corect has is show on my previus pictures.
Take care and have a nice day Morgan
Best regards
Nelson


R9 midle pot.

R8,R10 play with them near TV until get the best distance.
Not forget my Zahori was connected to BFO,was diferent from your

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[bama]

Hi everyone, are there any good field test results on the Zahori and mini
Zahori? It would be nice and helpful to hear from those who have built
these LRLs. thanks,
bama

[Morgan]

Ok Morgan, son can you show me how to add the BFO and i assume that the BFO allow you to tune the detector on some frequency spectrum?
Thanks for the pictures and , don´t forget to tell me if the 2N3819 legs are connected corect has is show on my previus pictures.
Take care and have a nice day Morgan
Best regards
Nelson


No need to adapt the BFO,it make the Zahori more complicated.
The pins are correct in your PCB.

[nelson]

Ok Morgan and thanks
So i will made another antenna, but with less wire thicknes
To the rest of entusiasts about mini zahori, can you share your expirencies, like how to test it, what sounds should i spect from it, etc.
Regands
Nelson


No need to adapt the BFO,it make the Zahori more complicated.
The pins are correct in your PCB.

[g-sani]

If you mean switching off CRT TV then "switch off" mean nothing. Residual static voltage of CRT can be prolonged for hours. If you open TV and try to touch CRT shielding with your finger after "switch off" you can sense this voltage way better than your Zahori (almost unforgetable).

I am asking this WM6 thinking of the AC mains.
May be we detect this as well when the set is on. :|

[WM6]

I am asking this WM6 thinking of the AC mains.
May be we detect this as well when the set is on. :|

AC mains voltage remain too in TV after turn TV OFF, but this voltage is not so high as voltage at CRTs High Voltage Anode made in form of shielding. This voltage remain long after turn TV OFF. This is explanation why you can sense CRT after turn TV OFF.

[g-sani]

Hi WM6, so you say that having the TV set on or off makes no difference and the test still the same.

[WM6]

Hi WM6, so you say that having the TV set on or off makes no difference and the test still the same.

Yes if you use a static voltage detector (what Zahori is) and switch TV set between ON and OFF.

If you let TV to stay at OFF position for hours or days then you evidently sense a difference (how much time we need to CRT High Voltage disappear depend on CRT construction).

You can try this by yourself, turn CRT TV OFF (mains plug out of mains line!!!), open it and touch High Voltage Anode on CRT. You get in moment possibilities to singing Rigoletto.

[J_Player]

Hi g-sani,

Here is an explanation that may make it easier to understand how to use a CRT for detecting static fields:

The high voltage anode charges a conductive parts inside the glass picture tube which can hold this charge for some time after the power connector is removed from the mains supply. A picture tube will charge to many thousands of volts, and will act as a capacitor because of the glass layer that separates the positive charge inside the glass tube from the more negative parts and grounded parts outside the tube. This charge is supplied from a high voltage flyback transformer that feeds to the anode wire. The high voltage passes through the side of the glass CRT tube where the anode is connected to a conductor that penetrates to the inside of the tube and charges conductive parts inside. There is a grounded shield around this glass tube, except at the front face of the tube which is open to the air. The open face of this tube can collect a large static charge that sometimes can be seen to make a snapping static discharge noise when you touch it after turning off the power. If you are using your Zahori to detect static charge anomalies in the air, then you should see a large anomaly near the face of a CRT from an old computer or television. The larger screens usually have higher voltage charges, and are expected to cause a larger anomaly in the air than a smaller CRT.

You can discharge a CRT high voltage by first removing the power plug from the mains supply and opening the rear enclosure. Then you can connect a wire from the ground of the TV to a screwdriver, and slip the screwdriver under the insulator that covers the anode wire until it touches the conductor. You may hear a snap noise if the voltage is high enough to make a spark. Be careful not to touch anything metallic while discharging the CRT tube. You can hold the insulated part of the screwdriver handle to be safe. Some designs of CRT use a high value bleeding resistor designed to slowly discharge the CRT after the power is removed from the charging circuit. But do not count on one of these resistors to remove the high voltage from inside the CRT.

If you have discharged the CRT, then the only charge remaining will be charges that are stored in capacitors in the TV circuit board. (Remember you disconnected the power plug from the mains before discharging the CRT, so there is no longer any mains power in this TV to sense). If you plug in the power plug without turning on the CRT, then the mains power should be the largest power that maybe you can detect using a Zahori near the power cord and the TV switch and other parts of the circuit board. Some CRTs keep "sleeping" circuits powered when the power is switched to the off position, that will not power up the CRT. Other CRTs may charge the CRT during the turned-off "sleeping mode".

The answer to your question is:
You can detect the electric field around a CRT whether it is switched on or off, or even if it is unplugged, depending on the conditions.

Here is a list of conditions that show the expected response:

1. Power turned on to see an image on the screen:
High voltage DC field at the screen with small AC component, and also a lower voltage AC field in the circuit board and power chord. You should be able to detect maximum electric field near the CRT face in this condition.

2. Power turned off after seeing an image on the screen:
High voltage DC field at the screen with out any AC component, and also a lower voltage AC field in the circuit board and power chord.The CRT static voltage will eventually leak and discharge over some minutes, or maybe some days depending on the leakage paths. So you will see a strong electric field in front of the CRT at the time it is on which will continue after you turn off the power. After the power is switched off, you will see the high voltage field eventually deteriorate until you can only sense the mains power in the circuit board and power chord. *The exception is for CRTs which have a sleep mode that keeps the CRT charged and ready for instant playing -- These will continue to have a large electric field anomaly after switching the CRT off.

3. Power plug removed from mains after seeing an image on the screen:
High voltage DC field at the screen only with NO AC component. There will be no AC components and no sign of AC voltage from the circuit board or power chord, because the AC mains power was removed. Possibly some small static voltages will be stored in capacitors on the circuit board, but these are small compared to the CRT voltage. The CRT static voltage will eventually leak and discharge over some minutes, or maybe some days depending on the leakage paths.

People who built the Zahori say it is good for detecting static fields. They report they can detect mains power and electrical transmission lines, and sources of static charge like CRTs and ion generators. I doubt you will be able to locate low voltages that may be stored in capacitors on the circuit boards. But you should be able to detect any strange anomalies to the electric field in the air (maybe over 50 volts or more, depending on how sensitive your circuit is set).

Hope that helped,
Best wishes,
J_P

[g-sani]

Thanks for explaining to both WM6 and J_P.
I think I understand.

[nelson]

Hi

Yesterday i made some test with mini zahori and it can detect my home electrical power lines on the wall about 8 to 15 centimeters away from the wall.
The sound comming from the buzzer of course is current but not a beep.
I also tested the unit in front of my old TV set and it detect current from just about 30 or 40 centimeters, no more than that.
My questions now are:

1.- Modifing my antenna could get more sensitive?
The distance fom L1 to L2 is important and if so what is the correct disctande. Mine has a distance of 0,5 cms?

2.- MY antenna wire is 1.6 mm in diameter, what is the best wire gauge that probes to work better?

3.- The first time i build mini zahori i placed 2N3819 reversed and seems to work to, but now i conecter the rigth way. So i whant to know if this could burn my 2N3819? This is important to know, cause this may cause my detector to work poorly.?

I hope someone with more knolegments and expirence can help, cause i m realy enthusiastic about this experiments.

Thanks and best regards
Nelson



R9 midle pot.

R8,R10 play with them near TV until get the best distance.
Not forget my Zahori was connected to BFO,was diferent from your

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[g-sani]

Are we also measuring DC static fields whith the zaxori?

[nelson]

Hi.
By now i think it measures just AC current, cause i haven´t the oportunity to measure other divices and other fileds.
Regards
Nelson


Are we also measuring DC static fields whith the zaxori?

[WM6]

Are we also measuring DC static fields whith the zaxori?



If you sense ions by some sort of device, you sense ions no matter of by what sort of voltage was ions generated AC or DC (or other sort of static voltage e.g. atmospheric, which was in fact DC). Voltage have to be only high enough to build ions. You get better sensitivity if your ion detector is constructed to sense right those ions that are compatible charged (+ or -) with sensor of your device.

If you use inductive sensor, like in pinpointer and MD, or antenna in RF field, then we cannot speak about sensing ions anymore. Ion sensors are capacitive coupled to ion source (hint for better sensing: ground of circuit have to be in contact with your body/housing of devices/handgrip of pistol - so sintetic housing of ion detectors are not the best solution).

[okantex]

Bee sure Zahori can detec AC lines , if it is high Voltage up to 100meters easyly.
high power line is 50m to my house , at my first trial at home , my 4N25 burned. it is such sensitive to fields.
do not now e-field or b-field , but it senses.

[Morgan]

Hi.
By now i think it measures just AC current, cause i haven´t the oportunity to measure other divices and other fileds.
Regards
Nelson

Pay atention to the ANTENNA,something is wrong,you should detect the TV(ON) 2m or more distance.


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[Morgan]

Hi.
By now i think it measures just AC current, cause i haven´t the oportunity to measure other divices and other fileds.
Regards
Nelson

please,make one draw with your ANTENNA configuration,like this i can correct the error.

[Morgan]

Hi.
By now i think it measures just AC current, cause i haven´t the oportunity to measure other divices and other fileds.
Regards
Nelson

First of all,disconnect your antenna with silver ring,and connect single LOOP 10 cm diameter and tell me the results .

[nelson]

Hi Morgan and thanks for your help.
I will draw my antenna configuration soon. Also i have a gold ring attach to L1, not a silver ring.
Today i was playing with a cable running from L2 and sensitivity seems to increase. But anyway, tomorrow i will draw a scketch of my antena.
Thanks a lot Morgan for your help
Regards
Nelson



please,make one draw with your ANTENNA configuration,like this i can correct the error.

[raff33]

First of all,disconnect your antenna with silver ring,and connect single LOOP 10 cm diameter and tell me the results .
Hi morgan ,
can i build mini zahori to detect only silver not other metals ?
many thanks for help

[nelson]

Yes, you can

Hi morgan ,
can i build mini zahori to detect only silver not other metals ?
many thanks for help

[bama]

Hey everyone question about a PD? Could a PD be made with a Gauss meter EMF
ghost detector ELF, and EF? Maybe add an external antenna.What do you think?
bama

[Qiaozhi]

Hey everyone question about a PD? Could a PD be made with a Gauss meter EMF
ghost detector ELF, and EF? Maybe add an external antenna.What do you think?
bama
How good is it at detecting ghosts?

[bama]

How good is it at detecting ghosts?
I haven't tried it on ghost. However it supposed to be sensitive to ELM,
EF and ELF's .Looks like what most of the guys are building for PDs. Just
wandering. bama

[Fred]

How good is it at detecting ghosts?

If the antenna freely rotates i am sure it works pretty good for real ghosts.

[Morgan]

Hi morgan ,
can i build mini zahori to detect only silver not other metals ?
many thanks for help

this is suposed to locate both precious metals...

[Morgan]

How good is it at detecting ghosts?

Well,you know,ghosts are most of times near the treasures,so this zahori will detect them together with the treasure,TWO in ONE operational device ;)

[J_Player]

Well,you know,ghosts are most of times near the treasures,so this zahori will detect them together with the treasure,TWO in ONE operational device ;)Ordinary ghost is not too much of a problem. They only try to scare you.
But this scaring will not hurt you if you are not afraid.

A bigger problem is the Jinns.
These spirits are also invisible, and they hide near treasures.
If you detect a Jinn, then you will know there is treasure near.
But be careful. A Jinn can beat you and even kill you without you even seeing him.
And Jinns have been reported to damage treasure hunting equipment.
Maybe he will destroy your Zahori. :shocked:

If you are lucky, then the Jinn you detect will only move the buried treasure so you cannot find it.
Then you will not be in danger.
.... but skeptics will point the finger and laugh to say it is a trick of the mind because you did not recover the treasure... :nono: :eek:

Maybe best to stay at gold frequency, and not go to low ghost and Jinn frequencies.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

If the antenna freely rotates i am sure it works pretty good for real ghosts.
I was just assuming that it would be as good at detecting gold at long distances as it would be at detecting ghosts. If you get my meaning ... :D

[g-sani]

I was just assuming that it would be as good at detecting gold at long distances as it would be at detecting ghosts. If you get my meaning ... :D

Do you mean that if ghosts are arround then the detector goes silent and if treasure is arround then you get beeps.
Does this mean that there are ghosts everywhere?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Fred]

I was just assuming that it would be as good at detecting gold at long distances as it would be at detecting ghosts. If you get my meaning ... :D
Yes ! I agree that it should work as well.Only that the suggested modifications may be necessary as ghosts are known to be mobile entities.

[J_Player]

Yes ! I agree that it should work as well.Only that the suggested modifications may be necessary as ghosts are known to be mobile entities.I hear there has been much confusion from using the Zahori to detect ghosts.
We know that common household ghosts are detected at the same frequency as silver from a Zahori that has a coil wound around a silver sample.
And the ghost eradication companies pay thousands of dollars to buy their hand-built silver detecting Zahoris so they can find the ghosts at the same silver frequency.
This is why people who call a ghost eradication service to remove ghosts from their home expect to pay a sizable fee to make their home safe and ghost-free.

But the problem comes because ghosts use the same frequency as silver. Everything works fine until they detect a lot of silver things in the house.
So they remove the silverware, silver jewelry, and all persons with silver fillings in their teeth from the house. They remove everything silver from the house except for the mirrors which have a silver reflective backing. Since these mirrors are often heirlooms that are too large to remove, they leave them in the haunted house while hunting for ghosts.
But then comes the problem...

We know ghosts have no reflection in a mirror.
So when these Zahoris beep at the mirror, the ghost hunter does not know if it is beeping at the silver on the mirror, or if it is beeping at a ghost...

After days of failing to catch the ghosts, the owner of the house kicks out the ghost hunters and does not pay them.
They point and laugh at the ghost hunters.
No matter what the ghost hunters say to convince them that they can find ghosts, the owners will not believe them.
And the ghosts laugh at the ghost hunters too.
They think it is funny how they can play games to hide from the ghost hunters because they are invisible through a mirror.

So the ghost hunters go home and try to sue the people who hired them so they can get paid...
but they cannot prove they are able to recover any ghosts. When the court asks to see a single one of the many ghosts they caught, they cannot show any.
I guess these ghost hunters are becoming poor like some LRL manufacturers. :oh:

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

So the ghost hunters go home and try to sue the people who hired them so they can get paid...
but they cannot prove they are able to recover any ghosts. When the court asks to see a single one of the many ghosts they caught, they cannot show any.
I guess these ghost hunters are becoming poor like some LRL manufacturers. :oh:

Best wishes,
J_P

:lol::lol::lol:.... very good

Regards:)

[nelson]

Hi Morgan.
Has you request, here is my sketch from my zahori antenna.
If you found something wrong, please let me know.
Regards and many thanks
Nelson


please,make one draw with your ANTENNA configuration,like this i can correct the error.

[mehdi]

Hi nelson
when L1 is 80mm and L2 is 120mm , so L1 to L2 distance should be 20mm! but i know what is your intention, L2 is 6mm below the L1. true?
regards
mehdi

[nelson]

Hi Mehdi.
Yes the distance from L1 to L2 is 6 mm.
Also i discover that i join and solder both loop ends of L1 and this join also to solder to the wire that runs to the gold sample and then to G of 2N3819. So now i separate both loop ends and sensitivity seems to work fine.
Something strange happends too, when i touch witn my finger the wire that comes fom G of 2N3819, cause sensitivity incres and you can detect my home lamp switch from about 60 to 70 centÃ*meters very easy. So for shure my problem is with antenna.
Do you have any other idea about it?
Di you build your own zahoria and what are your expirencies?
Regards
Nelson
PD: see my sketch id is rigth

Hi nelson
when L1 is 80mm and L2 is 120mm , so L1 to L2 distance should be 20mm! but i know what is your intention, L2 is 6mm below the L1. true?
regards
mehdi

[Morgan]

Hi Mehdi.
Yes the distance from L1 to L2 is 6 mm.
Also i discover that i join and solder both loop ends of L1 and this join also to solder to the wire that runs to the gold sample and then to G of 2N3819. So now i separate both loop ends and sensitivity seems to work fine.
Something strange happends too, when i touch witn my finger the wire that comes fom G of 2N3819, cause sensitivity incres and you can detect my home lamp switch from about 60 to 70 centÃ*meters very easy. So for shure my problem is with antenna.
Do you have any other idea about it?
Di you build your own zahoria and what are your expirencies?
Regards
Nelson
PD: see my sketch id is rigth

Everything looks normal except the wire around the sample is big,but maybe it works,i think yes,becouse the energy around the gold sample will make it to resonate. The same arrangement you can see inside the head of the Esteban´s Blue PD,in this case the gold sample stay inside the tube.

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[nelson]

Hi Morgan.

Well, today i changed the wire. Now i use 0,51 mm wire for L1 and L2, and also for the gold ring.
I also gave more distance btw L1 and L2. Now is 2 centimeters.
On my test i notice a little more distance to detect my AC wires running thru the walls of my house. But if i touch with my fingers the wire that comes from G of 2N3819, sensitivity increases a lot, that the wires on the wall can be detected at a distance of 1 meter and this doesn´t lose directivity from the antenna. Also i detected some kind of static coming from plants outside of my garden and i don´t know if this is normal.
When i made the test with my old tv set, detection distance is not to much, about 1 meter. This TV uses flayback and the screen is 14" wide.
To know if this is working on gold, what test could i make, cause i suppose that this divise is much more sensitive on gold samples than on AC current?

Here is a poor quality video that shows how my zahori is detecting ac currents from my lamp switch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxK369mn1M


Regards and thanks in advance.

Nelson


Everything looks normal except the wire around the sample is big,but maybe it works,i think yes,becouse the energy around the gold sample will make it to resonate. The same arrangement you can see inside the head of the Esteban´s Blue PD,in this case the gold sample stay inside the tube.

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[mehdi]

Hi nelson
i cant help you since i have same problem with my own zahori, but i am trying to solve this problem and when i solve it, i will post here the result.
regards
mehdi

[nelson]

Hi and thanks Mehdi.
I wich that all friends that are testing zahorie, can share real expirencies.
Now tell me if you have the same sound when you pass the detector in front of the lamp switch?
Regards and thanks

Nelson

Hi nelson
i cant help you since i have same problem with my own zahori, but i am trying to solve this problem and when i solve it, i will post here the result.
regards
mehdi

[mehdi]

Hi nelson
i can not open the youtube.com because it is bloked in my country, please send me the video to mehdi1m2m@yahoo.com (if it is possible for you)
thanks
mehdi

[nelson]

I already send you the video split in small files
Regards
Nelson


Hi nelson
i can not open the youtube.com because it is bloked in my country, please send me the video to mehdi1m2m@yahoo.com (if it is possible for you)
thanks
mehdi

[mehdi]

Hi nelson
i send you two email please see those.
best regards
mehdi

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.

Well, today i changed the wire. Now i use 0,51 mm wire for L1 and L2, and also for the gold ring.
I also gave more distance btw L1 and L2. Now is 2 centimeters.
On my test i notice a little more distance to detect my AC wires running thru the walls of my house. But if i touch with my fingers the wire that comes from G of 2N3819, sensitivity increases a lot, that the wires on the wall can be detected at a distance of 1 meter and this doesn´t lose directivity from the antenna. Also i detected some kind of static coming from plants outside of my garden and i don´t know if this is normal.
When i made the test with my old tv set, detection distance is not to much, about 1 meter. This TV uses flayback and the screen is 14" wide.
To know if this is working on gold, what test could i make, cause i suppose that this divise is much more sensitive on gold samples than on AC current?

Here is a poor quality video that shows how my zahori is detecting ac currents from my lamp switch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxK369mn1M


Regards and thanks in advance.

Nelson

Nice video.
Yes the MINI ZAHORI give this signal,but i change the speaker for Mineoro type BUZZER,so i get diferent sounds.
My Zahori never locate plants,maybe yours is locating some metal under the plants ???


Regards

[nelson]

Ok Morgan and thanks.
So now can you tell me what kind of buzzer should i ues to get sounds like you got on your zahori? or may be i should build an extra circuit that can make diferent sounds?
What about the distance i got from the AC wires? Do you think sensitivity is ok?

In andvance many thanks Morgan and i thrust on your work, so i hope you can help me to get a good device and i know that mini zahori is mini, so after i finish all test and expiriencies with it, for shure i will go for a more sofisticated one, like the one you, Esteban and other people have done.
Best regards and thanks for taking the time to teach.
Nelson


Nice video.
Yes the MINI ZAHORI give this signal,but i change the speaker for Mineoro type BUZZER,so i get diferent sounds.
My Zahori never locate plants,maybe yours is locating some metal under the plants ???


Regards

[Morgan]

Ok Morgan and thanks.
So now can you tell me what kind of buzzer should i ues to get sounds like you got on your zahori? or may be i should build an extra circuit that can make diferent sounds?
What about the distance i got from the AC wires? Do you think sensitivity is ok?

In andvance many thanks Morgan and i thrust on your work, so i hope you can help me to get a good device and i know that mini zahori is mini, so after i finish all test and expiriencies with it, for shure i will go for a more sofisticated one, like the one you, Esteban and other people have done.
Best regards and thanks for taking the time to teach.
Nelson

the Buzzer is BESTAR BPT-380X-S

make the connections like you see in picture.
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[nelson]

Ok Morgan, i will look for it.
Now what about my sensitivity, do you think is ok?
If so i will change the buzzer and do some field test.
What about the volume, i thing is not to high or i should use phones?
Regards
Nelson


the Buzzer is BESTAR BPT-380X-S

make the connections like you see in picture.
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[nelson]

Morgan, i did replace m,y piezzo for some old hedphones and now i can get a louder sound, and also deferent sounds. Sensitivity goes ups a lot, my tv set turned off, can be detected at 2 meters and my lamp switch at two meters and more sometimes, it depends how i set upr my zahori, so i belive when i can get BPT-380X-S piezzo, detection will opens to a new world for me, very interesting device, thanks.
Regards
Nelson



the Buzzer is BESTAR BPT-380X-S

make the connections like you see in picture.
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[Geo]

Morgan, i did replace m,y piezzo for some old hedphones and now i can get a louder sound, and also deferent sounds. Sensitivity goes ups a lot, my tv set turned off, can be detected at 2 meters and my lamp switch at two meters and more sometimes, it depends how i set upr my zahori, so i belive when i can get BPT-380X-S piezzo, detection will opens to a new world for me, very interesting device, thanks.
Regards
Nelson

Connect a buzzer. There is not any audio generator so you try to hear the frequency of the electric lines who are 50 or 60Hz.

[nelson]

Ok Geo, i will do that too.
Anyway this mini zahori looks that is doing what people that have made it, said
Thanks and regards
Nelson


Connect a buzzer. There is not any audio generator so you try to hear the frequency of the electric lines who are 50 or 60Hz.

[nelson]

I was looking the frequency range of BESTAR BPT-380X-S and this has a range from 500 hz to 2900 hz.
My first try was with a small buzzr for 2.9 Khz. So my question is, can i use a hedphone speaker that has a sound range from 14 hz to 20.000 hz?

Thanks
Nelson


the Buzzer is BESTAR BPT-380X-S

make the connections like you see in picture.
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[Morgan]

I was looking the frequency range of BESTAR BPT-380X-S and this has a range from 500 hz to 2900 hz.
My first try was with a small buzzr for 2.9 Khz. So my question is, can i use a hedphone speaker that has a sound range from 14 hz to 20.000 hz?

Thanks
Nelson

I think you should stay with the small buzzer,if the results are good.
Now you should try in the field test.

[nelson]

Ok Morgan, one more question, what should gold sound like?
I ask this cause i have made a few test in my house and on the garden. Zahori, detects for example static charges when i move my finger over a plastic case. Also in some places i detect with a sound that is like a "tac tac tac", then stops.
In conclusión how i can know when is gold, what the sound looks like?
I forgot, how i can make a test bed for gold or silver. I mean, buring a metal, but how deep, how much time should it stay underground?
And finaly, in previus post you said that some people detect gold with zahori at a distance of 20 meters. My question is how big was that gold and how deep
In advance thanks
Nelson


I think you should stay with the small buzzer,if the results are good.
Now you should try in the field test.

[Qiaozhi]

Ok Morgan, one more question, what should gold sound like?
I ask this cause i have made a few test in my house and on the garden. Zahori, detects for example static charges when i move my finger over a plastic case. Also in some places i detect with a sound that is like a "tac tac tac", then stops.
In conclusión how i can know when is gold, what the sound looks like?
I forgot, how i can make a test bed for gold or silver. I mean, buring a metal, but how deep, how much time should it stay underground?
And finaly, in previus post you said that some people detect gold with zahori at a distance of 20 meters. My question is how big was that gold and how deep
In advance thanks
Nelson
Nelson - what can I say?
Any static charge detected by the Zahori will generate a "tick, tick, tick", regardless of the source.
The word "Zahori" means "dowser". This device was just someone's attempt to create an electronic dowsing rod, based on the [misguided] idea that there is an electric charge associated with flowing water. It will never be able to detect gold at any distance.

[nelson]

OK Qiaozhi, so all comments post here is a fake?:angry::angry::angry:
If so, thats a very bad joke, cause you invert somo time investigating for just nuts? i dont think is a goog idea playing and jocking with people.
I had saw many comments and scketches about lots of LRL and i know that this is not easy to understand and also i know that is not a matter of build the circuit, go outside and find the gold. But what i whant is to begin with a small working divice that can do some aproch to LRL detecting. So if this zahori will not work, why people try to confuse more and more about this.:nono::nono::nono:
If the projects are secret, i will understand and is better that they don´t publish it here, cause has i understand this forum is for people like me and more advance people, that like to experiment and share their expirencies about treassure hunting and building new machines, what ever the technology they uses.
Thanks again for your comments and advice.:stars::stars::stars::stars::stars:
Best regards


Nelson - what can I say?
Any static charge detected by the Zahori will generate a "tick, tick, tick", regardless of the source.
The word "Zahori" means "dowser". This device was just someone's attempt to create an electronic dowsing rod, based on the [misguided] idea that there is an electric charge associated with flowing water. It will never be able to detect gold at any distance.

[WM6]

After Fukushima-Chernobyll it promises to be much more powerful gold ion radiation on the entire planet.

So therefore Zahori will finally come to force as perfect gold hunting device.

[nelson]

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After Fukushima-Chernobyll it promises to be much more powerful gold ion radiation on the entire planet.

So therefore Zahori will finally come to force as perfect gold hunting device.

[Qiaozhi]

OK Qiaozhi, so all comments post here is a fake?:angry::angry::angry:
If so, thats a very bad joke, cause you invert somo time investigating for just nuts? i dont think is a goog idea playing and jocking with people.
Nelson - don't be angry with me. ;) Others here may have misled you into believing this device has capabilities beyond the detection of electric charge, but I have always clearly stated that the Zahori cannot detect gold at any distance.

Did you not read the original translated Zahori article from Elektor magazine?

[nelson]

No, no, no Qiaozhi, i m not angry with you at all my friend.
It just that i don´t like other people to comments good things about a specific device, when they know that it will not work. So to you i have to said just thanks to alert me about mini zahori.
I hope Morgan can tell more about this , cause i decided to built zahori, after i read things like this:

Morgan, said,

Yes,nice and cheap project,this save your wallet from expensive MINEORO and other LRL´s in the market. Results will be the same(or better) and you save you money.

Happy hunting

Its very simple project. You can find here all you need.
According people wo build,they said distances around 20 m for big object.

Hello

I want to remember,the ZAHORI is a project already done in this forum. Most of people who have built,told not work for them,and acuse Esteban of false information. The diferent thing,all of them use telescopic antenna,no gold or silver sample,and like this where is the eletromagnetic resonance of gold for finding gold? I HOPE THIS CAN BE REAL!!!!

The gold sample inside the coil get charge for start the resonating process,i believe its working this way.

Regards

This are some of the words that motivated me.

Best regards my friend, and i have to said that this zahorie at least works has a ac line detector.

Nelson



Nelson - don't be angry with me. ;) Others here may have misled you into believing this device has capabilities beyond the detection of electric charge, but I have always clearly stated that the Zahori cannot detect gold at any distance.

Did you not read the original translated Zahori article from Elektor magazine?

[Qiaozhi]

No, no, no Qiaozhi, i m not angry with you at all my friend.
It just that i don´t like other people to comments good things about a specific device, when they know that it will not work. So to you i have to said just thanks to alert me about mini zahori.
I hope Morgan can tell more about this , cause i decided to built zahori, after i read things like this:

Morgan, said,

Yes,nice and cheap project,this save your wallet from expensive MINEORO and other LRL´s in the market. Results will be the same(or better) and you save you money.

Happy hunting

Its very simple project. You can find here all you need.
According people wo build,they said distances around 20 m for big object.

Hello

I want to remember,the ZAHORI is a project already done in this forum. Most of people who have built,told not work for them,and acuse Esteban of false information. The diferent thing,all of them use telescopic antenna,no gold or silver sample,and like this where is the eletromagnetic resonance of gold for finding gold? I HOPE THIS CAN BE REAL!!!!

The gold sample inside the coil get charge for start the resonating process,i believe its working this way.

Regards

This are some of the words that motivated me.

Best regards my friend, and i have to said that this zahorie at least works has a ac line detector.

Nelson
If you read Morgan's quote carefully (and maybe read between the lines) you will notice a few interesting points.


He says that this is a nice cheap project to build. This is true. It is not expensive as far as parts are concerned. There is only your own time to consider.
He says that the results, when compared to Mineoro, will be the same (or better). Again true. Since the Mineoro devices cannot find gold at any distance either. So they will be equally as bad as each other.
You will save money. Certainly this is true, if it convinces you not to buy from Mineoro.
It's a very simple project, and you can find everything you need here. True.
Some people, who have built the Zahori, claim to detected large objects at 20m. This statement is probably true, but then (as we know) LRL believers are extremely susceptible to self-delusion, wishful thinking and selective memory. It is highly unlikely that any object was detected at that distance, and the target was in fact recovered with a conventional metal detector. The rest is a "trick of the mind".
Many people have built the Zahori and found that it doesn't work. The statement "doesn't work" refers to the device's claimed ability to detect either water or gold. This ["doesn't work" statement] you can be certain is true.

However, your time has not been wasted. Any experiment is a good experiment. You've just managed to confirm yet another method for detecting gold at unbelievable distances that does not work as advertised.

At least you gained your education in LRLs at a cheap price. ;)

[Morgan]

If you read Morgan's quote carefully (and maybe read between the lines) you will notice a few interesting points.


He says that this is a nice cheap project to build. This is true. It is not expensive as far as parts are concerned. There is only your own time to consider.
He says that the results, when compared to Mineoro, will be the same (or better). Again true. Since the Mineoro devices cannot find gold at any distance either. So they will be equally as bad as each other.
You will save money. Certainly this is true, if it convinces you not to buy from Mineoro.
It's a very simple project, and you can find everything you need here. True.
Some people, who have built the Zahori, claim to detected large objects at 20m. This statement is probably true, but then (as we know) LRL believers are extremely susceptible to self-delusion, wishful thinking and selective memory. It is highly unlikely that any object was detected at that distance, and the target was in fact recovered with a conventional metal detector. The rest is a "trick of the mind".
Many people have built the Zahori and found that it doesn't work. The statement "doesn't work" refers to the device's claimed ability to detect either water or gold. This ["doesn't work" statement] you can be certain is true.

However, your time has not been wasted. Any experiment is a good experiment. You've just managed to confirm yet another method for detecting gold at unbelievable distances that does not work as advertised.

At least you gained your education in LRLs at a cheap price. ;)

Yes,i know people who have built the Zahori using this antenna and said FOUND GOLD !!!

Now is time for Nelson and others go testing the little Zahori in the fields ;)

[Morgan]

OK Qiaozhi, so all comments post here is a fake?:angry::angry::angry:
If so, thats a very bad joke, cause you invert somo time investigating for just nuts? i dont think is a goog idea playing and jocking with people.
I had saw many comments and scketches about lots of LRL and i know that this is not easy to understand and also i know that is not a matter of build the circuit, go outside and find the gold. But what i whant is to begin with a small working divice that can do some aproch to LRL detecting. So if this zahori will not work, why people try to confuse more and more about this.:nono::nono::nono:
If the projects are secret, i will understand and is better that they don´t publish it here, cause has i understand this forum is for people like me and more advance people, that like to experiment and share their expirencies about treassure hunting and building new machines, what ever the technology they uses.
Thanks again for your comments and advice.:stars::stars::stars::stars::stars:
Best regards

Actualy we know gold or silver when underground,create electromagnetic fields,so intensive according the time they are buried,THIS IS ENERGY.
The ZAHORI CAN LOCATE THIS ENERGY FIELDS??? Esteban,and two other said HAVE FOUND GOLD with this device,but large amounts up to 1Kg.
I have found,yes one silver plated copper fragment 20cmx10cm,10m distance,was near the surface,10 cm,i was using the ZAHORI mixed with BFO detector,but never found more objects,i still prefer the Alonso´s PD.

[WM6]

People here gave to hemorrhoids public name "gold veins". This is the only gold that can be sensed running around with Zahori.

[Morgan]

Actualy we know gold or silver when underground,create electromagnetic fields,so intensive according the time they are buried,THIS IS ENERGY.
The ZAHORI CAN LOCATE THIS ENERGY FIELDS??? Esteban,and two other said HAVE FOUND GOLD with this device,but large amounts up to 1Kg.
I have found,yes one silver plated copper fragment 20cmx10cm,10m distance,was near the surface,10 cm,i was using the ZAHORI mixed with BFO detector,but never found more objects,i still prefer the Alonso´s PD.

The ZAHORI make the obsolete BFO detector very powerfull when MIXED,but this project is MAYBE complicated for you or others,better start with the mini ZAHORI.
In one ocasion i ws detecting with the ZAHORI+BFO,in top of one mountain and start listening radio voices :D very funny

[Morgan]

People here gave to hemorrhoids public name "gold veins". This is the only gold that can be sensed running around with Zahori.

Anyway they still have some EXTRA money in pockets for hemorrhoidal treatment,becouse they not spent this money buying EXPENSIVE LRL´s...
Other LRL COMPLEMENT if they not become happy with ZAHORI are your cheap LRL projects NAMED Dr. BEST,all available in this RS FORUM...

Kind regards

[nelson]

Ok Qiaozhi.
What can i said, yes all is tru, and this is a line btw to use a convesional metal detector and mixing this with dowsing.
About dowsing, i know for some people works, because i was a withnes of people detecting water with just a pair of rods.
Any way, you and all friends here are right. The only thing i don´t like, is that some people know that they devices work, but they relly don´t want to share information about construction. I can understand if they want they devices to be comercialy, but i wish that in the future thay can share something that really work if it really exist.
THanks for your time and best regards
Nelson


If you read Morgan's quote carefully (and maybe read between the lines) you will notice a few interesting points.


He says that this is a nice cheap project to build. This is true. It is not expensive as far as parts are concerned. There is only your own time to consider.
He says that the results, when compared to Mineoro, will be the same (or better). Again true. Since the Mineoro devices cannot find gold at any distance either. So they will be equally as bad as each other.
You will save money. Certainly this is true, if it convinces you not to buy from Mineoro.
It's a very simple project, and you can find everything you need here. True.
Some people, who have built the Zahori, claim to detected large objects at 20m. This statement is probably true, but then (as we know) LRL believers are extremely susceptible to self-delusion, wishful thinking and selective memory. It is highly unlikely that any object was detected at that distance, and the target was in fact recovered with a conventional metal detector. The rest is a "trick of the mind".
Many people have built the Zahori and found that it doesn't work. The statement "doesn't work" refers to the device's claimed ability to detect either water or gold. This ["doesn't work" statement] you can be certain is true.

However, your time has not been wasted. Any experiment is a good experiment. You've just managed to confirm yet another method for detecting gold at unbelievable distances that does not work as advertised.

At least you gained your education in LRLs at a cheap price. ;)

[nelson]

Hi Morgan
Ok Ok , yes this weekend i hope i will have some time to go for some test
Thanks and regards
Nelson


Yes,i know people who have built the Zahori using this antenna and said FOUND GOLD !!!

Now is time for Nelson and others go testing the little Zahori in the fields ;)

[nelson]

Morgan, this is the information we like to hear about zahorie and other devices.
We all know you and other good friends here, are credible people, because you and others have posted lost of informtion about metal detector that relly works.
Ok now, tell me if i replace the gold sample from zahorie by lead or copper, do you think it can detect anything on the field?
AND ABOUT ALONSO PD, IS THSI THE ONE YOU SHOW ON A VIDEO THAT DETECTS A GOLD RING ON THE FLOOR?
CAN YOU ORIENT ME WICH SCHEMATIC IS THE RIGHT ONE HERE ON THE FORUM. I WHANT TO TRY IT AFTER FINISH MY TEST WITH ZAHORI?
Regards
Nelson



Actualy we know gold or silver when underground,create electromagnetic fields,so intensive according the time they are buried,THIS IS ENERGY.
The ZAHORI CAN LOCATE THIS ENERGY FIELDS??? Esteban,and two other said HAVE FOUND GOLD with this device,but large amounts up to 1Kg.
I have found,yes one silver plated copper fragment 20cmx10cm,10m distance,was near the surface,10 cm,i was using the ZAHORI mixed with BFO detector,but never found more objects,i still prefer the Alonso´s PD.

[Fred]

Any LRL will work as long as you use it together with a conventional detectors. As almost everyone does so, this explains all of the positive feedback about LRL- and that is not much.

[nelson]

Yes i agree with you Fred.
Thanks a lot
Regards
Nelson

Any LRL will work as long as you use it together with a conventional detectors. As almost everyone does so, this explains all of the positive feedback about LRL- and that is not much.

[mehdi]

Hi nelson, How are you?
are you build carl`s MFD?! it is good project to find treasure and i am sure that it work but with a few practise!!!!
nelson please reply to my email!!!
regards
mehdi

[aft_72005]

Hi nelson, How are you?
are you build carl`s MFD?! it is good project to find treasure and i am sure that it work but with a few practise!!!!
nelson please reply to my email!!!
regards
mehdi


Where are you know ,it is work? Is you build it?

[nelson]

No my friend.
Can you post where i can find that?
Regards
Nelson


Hi nelson, How are you?
are you build carl`s MFD?! it is good project to find treasure and i am sure that it work but with a few practise!!!!
nelson please reply to my email!!!
regards
mehdi

[mehdi]

Hi
yes i built it but i dont find treasure yet!!!
my friend has one and i see several time with my two eyes that he can find treasure with it, but a little big problem here!!; in 60% of cases in underground not any thing except BLACK SAND. but in 40% it can detect treasure that only 5% of them, the treasure was gold.
btw, may be you dont belive me but he has pin pointer pro treasure hunter too but he dont use that because he think that mfd work very very better than pinpointer pro.
dear nelson, i will send to your email all of you need!.
regards
mehdi

[nelson]

Ok Mehdi
I already send you an email telling about this
Thanks a lot for the information.
Regards and have a happy weekend and a best week
Nelson

Hi
yes i built it but i dont find treasure yet!!!
my friend has one and i see several time with my two eyes that he can find treasure with it, but a little big problem here!!; in 60% of cases in underground not any thing except BLACK SAND. but in 40% it can detect treasure that only 5% of them, the treasure was gold.
btw, may be you dont belive me but he has pin pointer pro treasure hunter too but he dont use that because he think that mfd work very very better than pinpointer pro.
dear nelson, i will send to your email all of you need!.
regards
mehdi

[aft_72005]

Hi
yes i built it but i dont find treasure yet!!!
my friend has one and i see several time with my two eyes that he can find treasure with it, but a little big problem here!!; in 60% of cases in underground not any thing except BLACK SAND. but in 40% it can detect treasure that only 5% of them, the treasure was gold.
btw, may be you dont belive me but he has pin pointer pro treasure hunter too but he dont use that because he think that mfd work very very better than pinpointer pro.
dear nelson, i will send to your email all of you need!.
regards
mehdi


Hi mehdi from land of great king korosh ;)
Also I built carl MFD at the past , my handmade LRODS is very good with balance and professional , instead of 8038 ic , use function generator .
But as Qiaozhi said also I think ,� it is trick of mined “ I didn't work more with MFD and
Cannot say absolutely “it isn't work “ .
I am one of the LRL experimenter. This is my believe, As my experiments there are energy field around long buried metals . I think may be electrostatic filed .
I founded very rusty nails with my long range locator (I think age was 50 -70 years )from 2-3 meter distance . deep was 20-30 cm .
Best regards.

[WM6]

This is my believe, As my experiments there are energy field around long buried metals .



Yes, well known energies, in psychology also known as greed-hallucinations.

[raff33]

Hi
yes i built it but i dont find treasure yet!!!
my friend has one and i see several time with my two eyes that he can find treasure with it, but a little big problem here!!; in 60% of cases in underground not any thing except BLACK SAND. but in 40% it can detect treasure that only 5% of them, the treasure was gold.
btw, may be you dont belive me but he has pin pointer pro treasure hunter too but he dont use that because he think that mfd work very very better than pinpointer pro.
dear nelson, i will send to your email all of you need!.
regards
mehdi
Hi,
how are you mehdi......? i alredy send you email of a persone in your country to give you informations about his LRL's .........is there any news..?
Regards

[Geo]

Yes, well known energies, in psychology also known as greed-hallucinations.


Ohhhhh... psychology knows about lrls and dowsing???? :lol:

[WM6]

Ohhhhh... psychology knows about lrls and dowsing????

:lol:

Geo, if you prefer Astrology over Psychology, I have a present for you: ADC (Astrology Dowsing Charts):

I prefer DDC (Druidic Dowsing Chart):

[Geo]

Geo, if you prefer Astrology over Psychology, I have a present for you: ADC (Astrology Dowsing Charts):

I prefer DDC (Druidic Dowsing Chart):


Hi.
Astrology and psychology are for you.
For me is what i see. So, LRL are for me and astrology for you

Regards:)

[mehdi]

Hi and thanks aft 72005 yes i am from land of great king KOROSH
wm6, yes it is possible but i believe that ability of human is very great, my knowledge of electronic is low (i am biologist) and for me it is important that i can detect treasure with LRL and no important HOW it can detect?!!!
Hi raff33, how are you? no there is not any news!!!
btw, we are in iranian new year holidays, after one week i will test my mini zahori in field and i will post here the results.
regards
mehdi

[aft_72005]

Yes, well known energies, in psychology also known as greed-hallucinations.

Wm6, as I read your messages in this forum, you don’t believe “real LRL by electronic devises�
This isn’t important for me you believe it or not believe it!!!!!! . If you cannot detect by LRL, then because you couldn’t, thus also there isn’t remote sensing !!!!!!.
At the first, also I don't believe LRL detection . I am reality man. I am not living in dream .
I study LRL circuit more than 2 years . in this way , I having a friend as guru . I am thanking so much from my friend. He learned me how use electronic LRL . there are
Some tips in the matter .

[aft_72005]

btw, we are in iranian new year holidays


Having good holidays.
I wish happy new year for all Iranians in this forum

[WM6]

I study LRL circuit more than 2 years . in this way , I having a friend as guru . I am thanking so much from my friend. He learned me how use electronic LRL . there are
Some tips in the matter .


man must believe in something (even in LRL), that could survive in these difficult times.

[mehdi]

Hi aft 72005 and many thanks.
mehdi

[nelson]

Hi Mehdi and happy new year for you and your people there in Iran.
About on the filed test for mini zahori, i haven´t jet the oportunity to get awy from the city to give it a try on mine.
So lets share our results and also don´t forget to send me some pcb information abot Carls MFD, couse i found some error btw pcb and schematics.
Best regards
Nelson



Hi and thanks aft 72005 yes i am from land of great king KOROSH
wm6, yes it is possible but i believe that ability of human is very great, my knowledge of electronic is low (i am biologist) and for me it is important that i can detect treasure with LRL and no important HOW it can detect?!!!
Hi raff33, how are you? no there is not any news!!!
btw, we are in iranian new year holidays, after one week i will test my mini zahori in field and i will post here the results.
regards
mehdi

[raff33]

Hi and thanks aft 72005 yes i am from land of great king KOROSH
wm6, yes it is possible but i believe that ability of human is very great, my knowledge of electronic is low (i am biologist) and for me it is important that i can detect treasure with LRL and no important HOW it can detect?!!!
Hi raff33, how are you? no there is not any news!!!
btw, we are in iranian new year holidays, after one week i will test my mini zahori in field and i will post here the results.
regards
mehdi
Hi,
happy new year holidays ;)
Regards

[mehdi]

Thanks a lot dear nelson and dear raff33
today i will send to you the pcb dear nelson
and dear raff, many thanks, i recive your pm.
regards
mehdi

[nelson]

PCB and schematics recived Mehdi.
Today after work i will send you photos of my zahori
Thanks and best regards
Nelson


Thanks a lot dear nelson and dear raff33
today i will send to you the pcb dear nelson
and dear raff, many thanks, i recive your pm.
regards
mehdi

[Morgan]

PCB and schematics recived Mehdi.
Today after work i will send you photos of my zahori
Thanks and best regards
Nelson

Here is the Esteban´s Zahori,he found jesuitic treasure with Zahori models.
14840

[Geo]

Hi Morgan.
If i remember right this is not a Zahori.

Regards:)

[Morgan]

Here is the Esteban´s Zahori,he found jesuitic treasure with Zahori models.
14840

He build other Zahori
14841

[Morgan]

PCB and schematics recived Mehdi.
Today after work i will send you photos of my zahori
Thanks and best regards
Nelson

Hello Nelson

How is going the experiments with ZAHORI ?

Regards

[nelson]

HI MORGAN
NO, I DONT HAVE THE TIME JET TO GO OUTSIDE THE CITY TO DO SOME FIELD TESTS. MAY BE I WILL TOMORROW.
I KNOW MEHDI HAD MADE SOME TEST WITH SOME GOOD SUCCESS.
REGARDS
NELSON



Hello Nelson

How is going the experiments with ZAHORI ?

Regards

[Morgan]

HI MORGAN
NO, I DONT HAVE THE TIME JET TO GO OUTSIDE THE CITY TO DO SOME FIELD TESTS. MAY BE I WILL TOMORROW.
I KNOW MEHDI HAD MADE SOME TEST WITH SOME GOOD SUCCESS.
REGARDS
NELSON

This is great news.

I think he built the zahori with my antenna with sample ? !!

Regards

[michael]

Hi all. I wish best things for all of you.are you sure about success with Zahori? I seriously doubt.This device is only good for finding power lines or any line with AC current.I've tested it in many different areas in deserts. more important is on big treasure locations,got no signal even one single beep, but it's able to detect high power lines from 100 meters with very clear strong signals. As another side, the PD is a real detector with more acceptable and repeatable results on that treasure locations. I got this signals on a very big treasure from more than 50 meters and for smaller one from 15-20 meters.Dear mehdi, if you have got any success, please share us your experiences.Thanks in advance.

[nelson]

Hi Michael.
I can understand what you said, but i think that this divices has everyone knows, are affected by the kind of weather you have at the moment of search. So this will work on some weather conditions and in some places around the world.
I think this depends too of how the atmosphere is charge with static current, so this is the reason why some devices works for some people and why they don´t work for others.
Taken this in mind i sugest to define a search protocol when remote sensing devices are under test
Regards
Nelson



Hi all. I wish best things for all of you.are you sure about success with Zahori? I seriously doubt.This device is only good for finding power lines or any line with AC current.I've tested it in many different areas in deserts. more important is on big treasure locations,got no signal even one single beep, but it's able to detect high power lines from 100 meters with very clear strong signals. As another side, the PD is a real detector with more acceptable and repeatable results on that treasure locations. I got this signals on a very big treasure from more than 50 meters and for smaller one from 15-20 meters.Dear mehdi, if you have got any success, please share us your experiences.Thanks in advance.

[aft_72005]

Hiiiiiiii Michael .http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/0010.gif
See you again after pass long time again at this forum. How are you??

[aft_72005]

Hi all. I wish best things for all of you.are you sure about success with Zahori? I seriously doubt.This device is only good for finding power lines or any line with AC current.I've tested it in many different areas in deserts. more important is on big treasure locations,got no signal even one single beep, but it's able to detect high power lines from 100 meters with very clear strong signals. As another side, the PD is a real detector with more acceptable and repeatable results on that treasure locations. I got this signals on a very big treasure from more than 50 meters and for smaller one from 15-20 meters.Dear mehdi, if you have got any success, please share us your experiences.Thanks in advance.

Hiiiiiiii Michael .http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/hi.gif
See you again after pass long time again at this forum.http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/018.gif How are you??
As I remember you built Esteban zahori , but the zahori built by mehdi is
The circuit by Morgan . this is other circuit .
As you said, I think mehdi will say more .
Best regards.
Oops , Hi Qiaozhi , I cannot reject and delete below post ( post 446)

[mehdi]

Hi my friends
i din not want to write here the result because i know some people may be dont belive me! and it is usual thing at remote sensing forum!!
i have not any good Voucher for proof, so it is not important to me that someone can belive me or not.
yes , mine is mini zahori( the circuit by morgan* many thanks morgan*) and antenna is too but sample is brass with 17 turn around it.
after a few rain, i went to test my zahori and i can detect a point that zahori sound at less than 1 meter above the ground , when i dig that i can found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground.
but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!!
all the best
mehdi

[WM6]

but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!!



Hi mehdi,

probably there are trumpet about 1.0 - 1.5m underground.

[mehdi]

Hi mehdi,

probably there are trumpet about 1.0 - 1.5m underground.

:lol::lol::lol:
it is possible ...:lol::lol:

[J_Player]

Hi my friends
i din not want to write here the result because i know some people may be dont belive me! and it is usual thing at remote sensing forum!!
i have not any good Voucher for proof, so it is not important to me that someone can belive me or not.
yes , mine is mini zahori( the circuit by morgan* many thanks morgan*) and antenna is too but sample is brass with 17 turn around it.
after a few rain, i went to test my zahori and i can detect a point that zahori sound at less than 1 meter above the ground , when i dig that i can found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground.
but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!!
all the best
mehdiHi Mehdi,

I am interested to know more information of how you found this coin. Can you tell these things?

1. What metal was the coin?
2. What kind of ground? Sand, clay? Wet ground, dry ground? Grass?
3. What was the air temperature?
4. Was the humidity high or low?

Thank you for your report.

Best wishes,
J_P

[mehdi]

Hi J_P
1. Brass or may be mixed with copper!!
2. not easy to say, may be all of them mixed together??!!
3. i am not sure but perhaps about 20 degree centigrade.
4. the humidity was high.

all the best
mehdi

[J_Player]

Hi J_P
1. Brass or may be mixed with copper!!
2. not easy to say, may be all of them mixed together??!!
3. i am not sure but perhaps about 20 degree centigrade.
4. the humidity was high.

all the best
mehdiHi mehdi,

The Zahori is basically an electric field detector. It detects variations in the electric field in the air.
If it beeped at a place where you found a coin buried, it may have been beeping because the coin caused an electric field to appear, or maybe because something else at the same location was causing the zahori to beep.

Do you remember if the ground was wet or not?
Were there plants or grass growing on the ground?
Were there other things on the ground like fence posts, buildings, telephone poles?
Was coin buried under a tesla coil?
was the ground flat? Or did it have a slope or hills on it?
Were there any big rocks nearby?


If the humidity was high, then the air was more conductive that day, and it would take a stronger electric field to make beeps on a zahori detector.
But you would also have less interference from noise in the air on a day with high humidity, so easier to find weak signals.

One thing that does not make any sense to me is the brass sample in the coil. This brass does nothing that I know of electronically.
Maybe you can make a second coil identical to your first coil, except do not put the brass sample. Then see if the zahori works the same with the brass as it works with no brass.

If you think about it the whole coil is made from copper. This is the same as having a copper sample.
So you could make a coil from aluminum wire to see if this is the same as aluminum sample, and iron wire to see if this is good for iron sample.
All of this seems silly to me. But we can find out for sure if you make a second coil with no brass sample to see if there is a difference.

Thank you for the report
Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi J_P.

I think that there is a secret with the sample, but i don't know who is it and how to explain.
I saw some LRLs to have samples inside them.
Some examples are the Vertex, DCH85 etc...

Regards:)

[michael]

Hi Michael.I can understand what you said, but i think that this divices has everyone knows, are affected by the kind of weather you have at the moment of search. So this will work on some weather conditions and in some places around the world.I think this depends too of how the atmosphere is charge with static current, so this is the reason why some devices works for some people and why they don´t work for others. Taken this in mind i sugest to define a search protocol when remote sensing devices are under test RegardsNelson Hi Nelson, Yes you are right, I know and believe in what you point. that's obvious.

[michael]

Hiiiiiiii Michael .See you again after pass long time again at this forum. How are you??As I remember you built Esteban zahori , but the zahori built by mehdi is The circuit by Morgan . this is other circuit . As you said, I think mehdi will say more . Hi dear Aft, Thank you man, I'm good, and how do U do? how is it going?If so, then at least change its' name don't call it zahori again to avoid of any confuse.and other serious question is that Morgan himself has found anything with this ZB(Zahori Brother)? what's other experiences with the ZB? You know better these damn guys have filtered geotech site so hard to enter here andmore harder to put a post harder to edit a post...puffffff.I was so much busy, we approached to the treasure very very close, but again jinns interfered and cut our hands, we don't disappoint we looking for a strong guru to defeat them and will again continue the project. by this time we have expensed more than 4000$ just for digging and still jinns are victor.OK, I got it, As I pointed before, we should see what's the results for all ZB makers, especially Morgan himself.Dear Mehdi would you please explain more carefully about the coin location with details?please answer all J-Player questions or more things.mokhlese harchi juyandeye jeddie ganje makhsusan shomaha.

[aft_72005]

Hi dear Aft, Thank you man, I'm good, and how do U do? how is it going?If so, then at least change its' name don't call it zahori again to avoid of any confuse.and other serious question is that Morgan himself has found anything with this ZB(Zahori Brother)? what's other experiences with the ZB? You know better these damn guys have filtered geotech site so hard to enter here andmore harder to put a post harder to edit a post...puffffff.I was so much busy, we approached to the treasure very very close, but again jinns interfered and cut our hands, we don't disappoint we looking for a strong guru to defeat them and will again continue the project. by this time we have expensed more than 4000$ just for digging and still jinns are victor.OK, I got it, As I pointed before, we should see what's the results for all ZB makers, especially Morgan himself.Dear Mehdi would you please explain more carefully about the coin location with details?please answer all J-Player questions or more things.mokhlese harchi juyandeye jeddie ganje makhsusan shomaha.

Hi Michael

Also I am good thanks. Morgan using his zahori circuit with BFO circuit . as I read messages ,
And If what's I said is correct . morgan didn’t use zahori lonely , in the matter better
Saying more Morgan.
About your treasure, as I remember you found it by your PD , you are the first person
That said PD work , also there are the second person that I know his PD workhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/018.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/003.gif;), (
In the matter I saw movie:cool:)
About your treasure , I am heard many about jinnes finding the person who is be able broke telesm !!!! is difficult .I hope success for you
About reach to geotech from your location : yes I know this problem , first you can use
Anti filter program second you can buy with low price VPN connection :D.
Best regards.

[aft_72005]

Hi my friends
i din not want to write here the result because i know some people may be dont belive me! and it is usual thing at remote sensing forum!!
i have not any good Voucher for proof, so it is not important to me that someone can belive me or not.
yes , mine is mini zahori( the circuit by morgan* many thanks morgan*) and antenna is too but sample is brass with 17 turn around it.
after a few rain, i went to test my zahori and i can detect a point that zahori sound at less than 1 meter above the ground , when i dig that i can found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground.
but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!!
all the best
mehdi

Hi mehdi
I congratulate.http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/good.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/good.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/0011.gif Are you know from what time it was buried or
Other words , what is age of coin ?

[mehdi]

Hi mehdi,

The Zahori is basically an electric field detector. It detects variations in the electric field in the air.
If it beeped at a place where you found a coin buried, it may have been beeping because the coin caused an electric field to appear, or maybe because something else at the same location was causing the zahori to beep.

Do you remember if the ground was wet or not?
yes it was a few wet
Were there plants or grass growing on the ground?
no
Were there other things on the ground like fence posts, buildings, telephone poles?
no
Was coin buried under a tesla coil?
no
was the ground flat? Or did it have a slope or hills on it?
yes it is flat
Were there any big rocks nearby?
no

If the humidity was high, then the air was more conductive that day, and it would take a stronger electric field to make beeps on a zahori detector.
But you would also have less interference from noise in the air on a day with high humidity, so easier to find weak signals.

One thing that does not make any sense to me is the brass sample in the coil. This brass does nothing that I know of electronically.
Maybe you can make a second coil identical to your first coil, except do not put the brass sample. Then see if the zahori works the same with the brass as it works with no brass.


If you think about it the whole coil is made from copper. This is the same as having a copper sample.
So you could make a coil from aluminum wire to see if this is the same as aluminum sample, and iron wire to see if this is good for iron sample.
All of this seems silly to me. But we can find out for sure if you make a second coil with no brass sample to see if there is a difference.
ok, i will try

Thank you for the report
Best wishes,
J_P

Hi
sorry for my delay, i am very busy at this time
best regards
mehdi

[mehdi]

Hi mehdi
I congratulate.http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/good.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/good.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/0011.gif Are you know from what time it was buried or
Other words , what is age of coin ?


Hi my dear friend thanks a lot
the coin age is about 80 years ago ( before reza shah :lol::lol::D)

all the best
mehdi

[Morgan]

Hi all. I wish best things for all of you.are you sure about success with Zahori? I seriously doubt.This device is only good for finding power lines or any line with AC current.I've tested it in many different areas in deserts. more important is on big treasure locations,got no signal even one single beep, but it's able to detect high power lines from 100 meters with very clear strong signals. As another side, the PD is a real detector with more acceptable and repeatable results on that treasure locations. I got this signals on a very big treasure from more than 50 meters and for smaller one from 15-20 meters.Dear mehdi, if you have got any success, please share us your experiences.Thanks in advance.

Hello Michael

Nice to see you here.
You are absolutly right about PD performance. About the Zahori we are making experiments with diferent antenna,we are using SAMPLE,i cant say it works as LRL,but some people have built and said IT WORKSas LRL for large cash hoards. In my field test not detect the buried gold medalion,but this is so small as single coin...

Regards

[Morgan]

Hi my dear friend thanks a lot
the coin age is about 80 years ago ( before reza shah :lol::lol::D)

all the best
mehdi

Hello Mehdi

I have only one question for you.
What is the wire diameter you use around the BRASS SAMPLE ?

Regards

[mehdi]

Hello Mehdi

I have only one question for you.
What is the wire diameter you use around the BRASS SAMPLE ?

Regards

Hi morgan
0.6mm !!

all the best
mehdi

[aft_72005]

Hi my friends
i din not want to write here the result because i know some people may be dont belive me! and it is usual thing at remote sensing forum!!
i have not any good Voucher for proof, so it is not important to me that someone can belive me or not.
yes , mine is mini zahori( the circuit by morgan* many thanks morgan*) and antenna is too but sample is brass with 17 turn around it.
after a few rain, i went to test my zahori and i can detect a point that zahori sound at less than 1 meter above the ground , when i dig that i can found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground.
but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!!
all the best
mehdi

Hi mehdi
At the first, Also I didn’t believe LRL detection until when found some rusty
Nails with my long range locator http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/003.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/018.gif!!!!!!!!! ., I believe there are phenomenon and energy filed around long buried metals now .

[aft_72005]

Hi my dear friend thanks a lot
the coin age is about 80 years ago ( before reza shah :lol::lol::D)

all the best
mehdi

mehdi , thank you
yes , age of coin enough for produced energy filed

[michael]

Hello Michael Nice to see you here. You are absolutly right about PD performance. About the Zahori we are making experiments with diferent antenna,we are using SAMPLE,i cant say it works as LRL,but some people have built and said IT WORKSas LRL for large cash hoards. In my field test not detect the buried gold medalion,but this is so small as single coinRegardsHi Morgan.Thank you, and me too.OK, When you with confidence tell it works , it's more reliable as I know you're serious in your work and projects.Do you have any info of your friends founds with this ZB? what's their experiences type?e.g. for a remote location have got signals in various times in different days?(The best conditions for this location are to be very far from any human made appliances and even be free of junk metals).of course Mehdi comments are appreciable but not strong cos he hasn't got repeatable results.we can assume it one "by accident hit" unless prove the reverse. especially when notice on this part of his comment: " found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground. but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!! "

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.Thank you, and me too.OK, When you with confidence tell it works , it's more reliable as I know you're serious in your work and projects.Do you have any info of your friends founds with this ZB? what's their experiences type?e.g. for a remote location have got signals in various times in different days?(The best conditions for this location are to be very far from any human made appliances and even be free of junk metals).of course Mehdi comments are appreciable but not strong cos he hasn't got repeatable results.we can assume it one "by accident hit" unless prove the reverse. especially when notice on this part of his comment: " found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground. but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!! "

Hi Michael

One of ZB user found one silver box with jewelry buried in old house yard (garden ? ) he said ZB start the sounds at 50 meters,he folow direction and use the ZB pointed to ground to understand where it comes the signal,and of course with metal detector he found the box only 40 cm deep,material was from the 18 century. The other one found one gold cache,more than 1 Kg of coins in a remote place like a forest,distance was 80 meters,i not remember the deep,he told only with Pulse Induction large coil he get the pinpoint of the cache. Both of them said after remove the treasures ZB not give more signals. Should i believe in this stories ???Well i need to rebuild my ZB and go to the fields ;)

Regards

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.Thank you, and me too.OK, When you with confidence tell it works , it's more reliable as I know you're serious in your work and projects.Do you have any info of your friends founds with this ZB? what's their experiences type?e.g. for a remote location have got signals in various times in different days?(The best conditions for this location are to be very far from any human made appliances and even be free of junk metals).of course Mehdi comments are appreciable but not strong cos he hasn't got repeatable results.we can assume it one "by accident hit" unless prove the reverse. especially when notice on this part of his comment: " found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground. but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!! "

All of ZB builders told this LRL is not good to find small objects. Except Mehdi told diferent story.

[Morgan]

Hi morgan
0.6mm !!

all the best
mehdi

Thank you.

[J_Player]

Hi Morgan.Thank you, and me too.OK, When you with confidence tell it works , it's more reliable as I know you're serious in your work and projects.Do you have any info of your friends founds with this ZB? what's their experiences type?e.g. for a remote location have got signals in various times in different days?(The best conditions for this location are to be very far from any human made appliances and even be free of junk metals).of course Mehdi comments are appreciable but not strong cos he hasn't got repeatable results.we can assume it one "by accident hit" unless prove the reverse. especially when notice on this part of his comment: " found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground. but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!! "The zahori detects variations in electric charge in the air. From what we see in testing this charge can come from alternating voltages near power lines, or from high voltage DC sources, or simply variations in the charge at the air that is in front of the zahori. In conditions where we are far away from man-made power, the only source of charge will be the atmospheric charge of 100-200 volts per meter as we move upward, and possible staticly charged objects on the ground or suspended in the air, like dust particles. It is also possible to have a charge in the ground, but any local ground charge will not be more than a few volts, which will be invisible compared to the 100+ volts in the air above it.

The air charge is also seen as a gradient starting at ground potential and increasing as we move upward. This would tell us that an anomaly can be seen by moving the zahori from the ground to a meter or two above the ground quickly. Or if there is a metal pipe in the ground standing vertically, we can expect to detect this pipe when making a horizontal sweep across the pipe. This is because the pipe will cause an anomaly which raises the ground potential from the ground to the top of the pipe, So we expect to see the 100 volts of air charge measured 1 meter above the ground to change to 0v when we check the charge near the pipe.

But why would a zahori show a charge anomaly in the air above a buried treasure?
One theory is rooted in the same atmospheric air charge which we know is powered by solar wind. We know electrons are slowly leaking from the ground into the air and finding their way upward to the ionosphere. This happens in very tiny amounts which have been measured to be an average of 6000 amps of current flow over the entire world at any one time. When we look at the surface of the earth, we see that there is only 11.76 nA leaking from any 1 sq meter of ground on average. This is not much to measure. But then we are not measuring the total current flowing. The zahori measures the charge, not the current.

The second part of this theory is based on the fact that the current leaking from the earth is not uniform. We know the areas of sunlight have more activity than the dark side of the earth. And there are weather conditions that cause major changes in the current leaking and the charge seen in the air near the ground. During a storm, the air charge can change dramatically, and even become negative. It is during thunderstorms when lightning replenishes the earth's negative charge to allow further leakage of electrons in other parts of the earth that are not having storms. There are also areas of underground electric currents called telluric currents, which can be measured to be stronger in some locations than others. We find the ground is also more conductive in some areas than others. As a result, lightning tends to favor certain locations when it strikes. We see the example of the lightning rod, which could be a simple pipe placed in the ground to raise the height of the ground location.

While these telluric currents and conductive ground areas are not detectable with a charge detector such as the zahori, variations in the air charge above them is. The theory is that more current will leak from the ground to the air at a location where the ground is more conductive. Let's imagine a desert with a layer of dry sand for 1 meter depth which has a small area where an iron sword was dropped, and rusted during rainstorms to leave particles of iron and rust after many years. We could expect this area of dry sand to be more conductive than the surrounding sand. And according to the theory, electrons would tend to flow more easily in this conductive area than in the surrounding areas which are a better insulator. We might expect more electrons to leak into the air above this rusty patch of ground. Maybe the amount of difference is not much, but in theory, it could be seen as maybe double or more current leaking into the air. If this is happening, then we would also expect the air charge to show a large anomaly in charge above this more conductive ground. If any of this theory is true, then I would expect the air charge anomaly to be most easily detected on days of low humidity, and in areas far away from electronic noise in the air. I would also expect to see it in places where the ground is uniform and fairly dry at the surface.

In many sandy locations, we see a layer of dry sand at the surface, with damp ground below. In these conditions, the depth at which we find the damp ground can change a lot depending on where you dig. This is another way you could get false signals from a zahori charge detector. You can get beeps from a zahori when you walk to a location where the depth of the damp soil is closer or farther away from the surface. If you walk over ground where the damp soil depth is closer to the surface, then you can expect to hear some beeping. So you dig to see what you found and it is an empty hole. You could not know you found shallow dampness unless you dig a lot of holes to see you detected a higher moisture level. Maybe this is why the first Zahori article described it as a detector to find water.

These are the reasons why I consider the Zahori to be a poor detector of treasures, but maybe useful for locating water if the atmospheric and ground conditions are favorable.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

The zahori detects variations in electric charge in the air. From what we see in testing this charge can come from alternating voltages near power lines, or from high voltage DC sources, or simply variations in the charge at the air that is in front of the zahori. In conditions where we are far away from man-made power, the only source of charge will be the atmospheric charge of 100-200 volts per meter as we move upward, and possible staticly charged objects on the ground or suspended in the air, like dust particles. It is also possible to have a charge in the ground, but any local ground charge will not be more than a few volts, which will be invisible compared to the 100+ volts in the air above it.

The air charge is also seen as a gradient starting at ground potential and increasing as we move upward. This would tell us that an anomaly can be seen by moving the zahori from the ground to a meter or two above the ground quickly. Or if there is a metal pipe in the ground standing vertically, we can expect to detect this pipe when making a horizontal sweep across the pipe. This is because the pipe will cause an anomaly which raises the ground potential from the ground to the top of the pipe, So we expect to see the 100 volts of air charge measured 1 meter above the ground to change to 0v when we check the charge near the pipe.

But why would a zahori show a charge anomaly in the air above a buried treasure?
One theory is rooted in the same atmospheric air charge which we know is powered by solar wind. We know electrons are slowly leaking from the ground into the air and finding their way upward to the ionosphere. This happens in very tiny amounts which have been measured to be an average of 6000 amps of current flow over the entire world at any one time. When we look at the surface of the earth, we see that there is only 11.76 nA leaking from any 1 sq meter of ground on average. This is not much to measure. But then we are not measuring the total current flowing. The zahori measures the charge, not the current.

The second part of this theory is based on the fact that the current leaking from the earth is not uniform. We know the areas of sunlight have more activity than the dark side of the earth. And there are weather conditions that cause major changes in the current leaking and the charge seen in the air near the ground. During a storm, the air charge can change dramatically, and even become negative. It is during thunderstorms when lightning replenishes the earth's negative charge to allow further leakage of electrons in other parts of the earth that are not having storms. There are also areas of underground electric currents called telluric currents, which can be measured to be stronger in some locations than others. We find the ground is also more conductive in some areas than others. As a result, lightning tends to favor certain locations when it strikes. We see the example of the lightning rod, which could be a simple pipe placed in the ground to raise the height of the ground location.

While these telluric currents and conductive ground areas are not detectable with a charge detector such as the zahori, variations in the air charge above them is. The theory is that more current will leak from the ground to the air at a location where the ground is more conductive. Let's imagine a desert with a layer of dry sand for 1 meter depth which has a small area where an iron sword was dropped, and rusted during rainstorms to leave particles of iron and rust after many years. We could expect this area of dry sand to be more conductive than the surrounding sand. And according to the theory, electrons would tend to flow more easily in this conductive area than in the surrounding areas which are a better insulator. We might expect more electrons to leak into the air above this rusty patch of ground. Maybe the amount of difference is not much, but in theory, it could be seen as maybe double or more current leaking into the air. If this is happening, then we would also expect the air charge to show a large anomaly in charge above this more conductive ground. If any of this theory is true, then I would expect the air charge anomaly to be most easily detected on days of low humidity, and in areas far away from electronic noise in the air. I would also expect to see it in places where the ground is uniform and fairly dry at the surface.

In many sandy locations, we see a layer of dry sand at the surface, with damp ground below. In these conditions, the depth at which we find the damp ground can change a lot depending on where you dig. This is another way you could get false signals from a zahori charge detector. You can get beeps from a zahori when you walk to a location where the depth of the damp soil is closer or farther away from the surface. If you walk over ground where the damp soil depth is closer to the surface, then you can expect to hear some beeping. So you dig to see what you found and it is an empty hole. You could not know you found shallow dampness unless you dig a lot of holes to see you detected a higher moisture level. Maybe this is why the first Zahori article described it as a detector to find water.

These are the reasons why I consider the Zahori to be a poor detector of treasures, but maybe useful for locating water if the atmospheric and ground conditions are favorable.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P

Thanks for all your explanations about ZAHORI. I also believe that all the ground above conductive metal(treasures) produce diference in air voltage,and as result the ZAHORI or ZB can locate this spot.
About the ZB,if well constructed according my instructions,not produce any false signals on trees ,rocks,what can make it sounds is the power lines or any kind of electrical sources at home.
The ZB is so quiet in the fields that most of people said NOT WORK,of course is boring to walk two hours in the field with NO SIGNALS,so beter make ZB very light ;)

Regards

[J_Player]

Hi J_P

Thanks for all your explanations about ZAHORI. I also believe that all the ground above conductive metal(treasures) produce diference in air voltage,and as result the ZAHORI or ZB can locate this spot.
About the ZB,if well constructed according my instructions,not produce any false signals on trees ,rocks,what can make it sounds is the power lines or any kind of electrical sources at home.
The ZB is so quiet in the fields that most of people said NOT WORK,of course is boring to walk two hours in the field with NO SIGNALS,so beter make ZB very light ;)

RegardsHi Morgan,
It is possible there are voltage charges in the air caused by buried metals. But nobody has confirmed this. If it is true, then these charges are easily confused with charges in the air from different causes than buried metals. One of the most likely other causes of charges is the conductivity of the ground and anomalies in ground moisture. This is why the Zahori may be able to detect metals, but seems more suitable for detecting water.

But the ZB is a different design which has little known from testing except some strange test results which are different from different people. Maybe the ZB has a way to ignore charges caused by water, conductive ground, and other false signals that we don't understand yet.


Best wishes,
J_P

[michael]

Hi Michael One of ZB user found one silver box with jewelry buried in old house yard (garden ? ) he said ZB start the sounds at 50 meters,he folow direction and use the ZB pointed to ground to understand where it comes the signal,and of course with metal detector he found the box only 40 cm deep,material was from the 18 century. The other one found one gold cache,more than 1 Kg of coins in a remote place like a forest,distance was 80 meters,i not remember the deep,he told only with Pulse Induction large coil he get the pinpoint of the cache. Both of them said after remove the treasures ZB not give more signals. Should i believe in this stories ???Well i need to rebuild my ZB and go to the fields All of ZB builders told this LRL is not good to find small objects. Except Mehdi told diferent story.Hi, pardon me please for my DC, again filtering problem.dear Morgan, so which one? finally this ZB can detect treasure or not? I ask this as your comments here are in contradiction. would you please tell some details of their founds condition? e.g. weather and ground conditions?another question is ; do you think it detects better than PD?Thank you in advance.

[michael]

OH, by the way J_P, thank you very much for your useful information.

[J_Player]

OH, by the way J_P, thank you very much for your useful information.Hi Michael,
How you been doing with your treasure hunting since you returned from Australia?

I am glad you liked my post. If you think it helped you to find treasure, you can send me a reward, like some samples of the treasure you found. (Send PM for shipping instructions).

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Hi, pardon me please for my DC, again filtering problem.dear Morgan, so which one? finally this ZB can detect treasure or not? I ask this as your comments here are in contradiction. would you please tell some details of their founds condition? e.g. weather and ground conditions?another question is ; do you think it detects better than PD?Thank you in advance.

Hello Michael

Well,this people found the treasures in dry weather,thats what i know,and it makes sense.
If ZB is better than PD,i dont think so,anyway i´m rebuilding my Z-B and will make all the tests in the field and report the results to you.
All the treasures in contact with the ground produce ENERGY,this field of energy is more big to North direction,THIS IS TRUE,and i think the Zahori Brother can locate one treasure many meters distance,but the ANTENNA will need more refinated ideias to work for the little objects. The gold or silver sample in connection with the Antenna is important.There are many things that all Electronic Engeneers not believe becouse not understand,and i dont understand but make experiments and see the results.

Regards

[michael]

Hi Michael,
How you been doing with your treasure hunting since you returned from Australia?

I am glad you liked my post. If you think it helped you to find treasure, you can send me a reward, like some samples of the treasure you found. (Send PM for shipping instructions).

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Best wishes,
J_P


Hi. J_Pfirst of all I apologize from all for my post paragraphing, as I use anti-filters it never letme to set my comments on separate paragraphs or put any emoticon. (Damn government )
We went down up to 13 meters, but again jinn activities stopped work, it has long story, out of patience to tell here. In summarized ask you how it's possible from over ground our PI always bit it with highest signal (overloads) but when send it vertically into well sometime overloads and other times becomes entirely silent???!!!!!

Believe me or not, it's obvious something strange happens there and make us very confused.So we decided to give up this point at present until find a good strong guru to conquer jinns.

Now we stretch our work to other areas, so last week I accepted to work with other teams and took my PD to a treasure suspectlocation (based on map), at dark night I turned on my PD and started walking toward their location after 15-20 minutes we reached to a location that PD started strong crazily beeping I stopped and walked back for 20-25 meters, again set PD to null and walked toward the location ,again got same behavior. I continued walking and noticed a digging there. they said:" that's it, that's it, your detector is locating the same location. Do you order we continue digging?" I said them: "No it's too soon to run any equation, maybe the treasure be up to 20 meters radius around here I should bring a reliable pinpointer detector"

After that I asked them about their reason for digging the point.They told me that one month ago they had located that point with another detector with another device owner, but found no sign of treasure.

what they signed from that detector was a kind of MFD which owner had let himself to pinpoint and mark a point to dig down. Result was empty hole.I tried this by PD from different directions and got same results, concluded there is a hot place with high possibility (over 70%) of treasure existence.So 2 days later I'm going there with my powerful PI (MDL) to see what it tells.I hope to find a clear treasure ( without any talisman; not encounter any jinn)

About your information, again thank you although at this time for me personally is no help for treasure hunting. but hope to be at future.(Smile blinking emoticon)If I want to give a share, first of all the best guy is Morgan who did a considerable favor and granted us the PD.(I'm serious I will settle for him) to see what will happen.

[Qiaozhi]

We went down up to 13 meters, but again jinn activities stopped work, it has long story, out of patience to tell here. In summarized ask you how it's possible from over ground our PI always bit it with highest signal (overloads) but when send it vertically into well sometime overloads and other times becomes entirely silent???!!!!!

Believe me or not, it's obvious something strange happens there and make us very confused.So we decided to give up this point at present until find a good strong guru to conquer jinns.
Have you considered that there may be a much simpler answer?

In other words, there is no treasure in the place where you are digging. :rolleyes:

[aft_72005]

Hi Michael
As you said , you couldn’t find long buried metals by PD yet!!!.
Are you find any metallic items by your PD ??? :???:
Best regards.

[J_Player]

Have you considered that there may be a much simpler answer?

In other words, there is no treasure in the place where you are digging. :rolleyes:Hi Qiaozhi,
This seems like one possibility. But then, what caused his PI detector to make a signal at this location?

It seems like there were some strange overload signals coming from the PI detector as well as some blank signals.
If not the work of a Jinn, we are left with equipment malfunction causing this strange PI detector behavior.
The question is why would the PI detector malfunction only here, and not when taken away from this location?

If there is not a treasure at that location, then there must be something strange there to cause the PI detector to malfunction.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Qiaozhi,
This seems like one possibility. But then, what caused his PI detector to make a signal at this location?

It seems like there were some strange overload signals coming from the PI detector as well as some blank signals.
If not the work of a Jinn, we are left with equipment malfunction causing this strange PI detector behavior.
The question is why would the PI detector malfunction only here, and not when taken away from this location?

If there is not a treasure at that location, then there must be something strange there to cause the PI detector to malfunction.

Best wishes,
J_P
Equipment malfunction is the most likely cause.
My advice would be to try some different detectors and compare results.

[Morgan]

Hi. J_Pfirst of all I apologize from all for my post paragraphing, as I use anti-filters it never letme to set my comments on separate paragraphs or put any emoticon. (Damn government )
We went down up to 13 meters, but again jinn activities stopped work, it has long story, out of patience to tell here. In summarized ask you how it's possible from over ground our PI always bit it with highest signal (overloads) but when send it vertically into well sometime overloads and other times becomes entirely silent???!!!!!

Believe me or not, it's obvious something strange happens there and make us very confused.So we decided to give up this point at present until find a good strong guru to conquer jinns.

Now we stretch our work to other areas, so last week I accepted to work with other teams and took my PD to a treasure suspectlocation (based on map), at dark night I turned on my PD and started walking toward their location after 15-20 minutes we reached to a location that PD started strong crazily beeping I stopped and walked back for 20-25 meters, again set PD to null and walked toward the location ,again got same behavior. I continued walking and noticed a digging there. they said:" that's it, that's it, your detector is locating the same location. Do you order we continue digging?" I said them: "No it's too soon to run any equation, maybe the treasure be up to 20 meters radius around here I should bring a reliable pinpointer detector"

After that I asked them about their reason for digging the point.They told me that one month ago they had located that point with another detector with another device owner, but found no sign of treasure.

what they signed from that detector was a kind of MFD which owner had let himself to pinpoint and mark a point to dig down. Result was empty hole.I tried this by PD from different directions and got same results, concluded there is a hot place with high possibility (over 70%) of treasure existence.So 2 days later I'm going there with my powerful PI (MDL) to see what it tells.I hope to find a clear treasure ( without any talisman; not encounter any jinn)

About your information, again thank you although at this time for me personally is no help for treasure hunting. but hope to be at future.(Smile blinking emoticon)If I want to give a share, first of all the best guy is Morgan who did a considerable favor and granted us the PD.(I'm serious I will settle for him) to see what will happen.

Hello Michael

Thanks for your words.
Now about the treasure you locate,maybe the amount of precious metal is 1 or 2kg becouse the distance is not more than 25 m,well,but this depends on how good is your PD balanced.You need triangulate NSEW the place and find the spot,have a look on the yootube video TARGET NEAR THE ROAD,see the distance for the target N to S is 3 m,but S to N is only 1 m,the PHENOMENON is more active to N direction.
And about your other Treasure location,you are diging too much,at 14 m probably you will find wather...At this depth who is the person who hide treasure without being seen by others,or what kind of a treasure is so deep underground ???


Regards

[Morgan]

HI MORGAN
NO, I DONT HAVE THE TIME JET TO GO OUTSIDE THE CITY TO DO SOME FIELD TESTS. MAY BE I WILL TOMORROW.
I KNOW MEHDI HAD MADE SOME TEST WITH SOME GOOD SUCCESS.
REGARDS
NELSON

Hello Nelson

Here you can see my Antenna construction for the ZB,sorry for this delay.

Very soon will be ready to test .
15138

15139

15140

[Morgan]

Hi. J_Pfirst of all I apologize from all for my post paragraphing, as I use anti-filters it never letme to set my comments on separate paragraphs or put any emoticon. (Damn government )
We went down up to 13 meters, but again jinn activities stopped work, it has long story, out of patience to tell here. In summarized ask you how it's possible from over ground our PI always bit it with highest signal (overloads) but when send it vertically into well sometime overloads and other times becomes entirely silent???!!!!!

Believe me or not, it's obvious something strange happens there and make us very confused.So we decided to give up this point at present until find a good strong guru to conquer jinns.

Now we stretch our work to other areas, so last week I accepted to work with other teams and took my PD to a treasure suspectlocation (based on map), at dark night I turned on my PD and started walking toward their location after 15-20 minutes we reached to a location that PD started strong crazily beeping I stopped and walked back for 20-25 meters, again set PD to null and walked toward the location ,again got same behavior. I continued walking and noticed a digging there. they said:" that's it, that's it, your detector is locating the same location. Do you order we continue digging?" I said them: "No it's too soon to run any equation, maybe the treasure be up to 20 meters radius around here I should bring a reliable pinpointer detector"

After that I asked them about their reason for digging the point.They told me that one month ago they had located that point with another detector with another device owner, but found no sign of treasure.

what they signed from that detector was a kind of MFD which owner had let himself to pinpoint and mark a point to dig down. Result was empty hole.I tried this by PD from different directions and got same results, concluded there is a hot place with high possibility (over 70%) of treasure existence.So 2 days later I'm going there with my powerful PI (MDL) to see what it tells.I hope to find a clear treasure ( without any talisman; not encounter any jinn)

About your information, again thank you although at this time for me personally is no help for treasure hunting. but hope to be at future.(Smile blinking emoticon)If I want to give a share, first of all the best guy is Morgan who did a considerable favor and granted us the PD.(I'm serious I will settle for him) to see what will happen.

Sorry,you must search in YOUTUBE PHENOMENON NEAR THE ROAD.

[nelson]

Hi Morgan.
Nice pictures and looks similar to my zahori, except that you place both antennas on the same plane. MIne are separeted 2.5 centimeters. The small coil is in front.
How do you connected L1 and L2?
Regards and will shaere soon expirencies, about zahori
Nelson

Hello Nelson

Here you can see my Antenna construction for the ZB,sorry for this delay.

Very soon will be ready to test .
15138

15139

15140

[michael]

Equipment malfunction is the most likely cause.
My advice would be to try some different detectors and compare results.


Hi

Qiaozhi,
Your answer is in J_P post.
Why exactly on such especial location we have very very strong signal not anywhere else?and as I've mentioned before in other threads on this location we get strong signal(crazy PD)and with another PI(which is much weaker than MDL) get very weak signals on surface.of course you've forgotten my previous statements about the hot location, MDL gets first signals from more than 50 meters and soon overloads, when reset and step toward it, again soon overloads but for other places with same soil is silent.

Qiaozhi you're wrong, MDL works very very reliable and accurate without any malfunction or error.

our problem with MDL is only when transfer the head inside well, on different times, different behaviors. but on ground surface it works highly stable and consistent.it never gives even one single false signal.

e.g. sometimes ago we took it in a remote place and searched very vast area for about continuous 2 hours. as I said before its' speed is 10 times higher than other PIs.( we can run with that without any problem) it was silent until on one location it got a signal and I led it toward the center of probable target and got the strongest signal just over a flat thick stone.[ first signal was got from 2 meters.]

from signal type I diagnosed target dimension and told to fellows it's small and don't think is worth to dig.

they persisted for digging to see what can be under such stone. it doesn't seem to be a junk. we dug the soil from one edge of stone and finally with another PI found it.depth from surface was about 1 meters. It was a very ancient small iron peak that wooden handle was entirely gone. it was for more than 100 years ago.after that location was without any signal.

When MDL sounds we are sure there is a real target.No man, this cannot justify the exact reason for this specific behavior.

[Qiaozhi]

When MDL sounds we are sure there is a real target.No man, this cannot justify the exact reason for this specific behavior.
OK - if we assume the MDL is working fine, then ...

We went down up to 13 meters, but again jinn activities stopped work, ...
... there is clearly some other problem. But the conclusion, that Jinn's are the cause, is just ridiculous. :frown:

Perhaps the real target is off to one side of the hole.

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
Nice pictures and looks similar to my zahori, except that you place both antennas on the same plane. MIne are separeted 2.5 centimeters. The small coil is in front.
How do you connected L1 and L2?
Regards and will shaere soon expirencies, about zahori
Nelson

Hello Nelson

I finish the mini Zahori

the 4k7 pot. is GAIN

the 47 K is Volume

[nelson]

Hi Morgan
Good to heard that your zahori is finish, now you have to do some field test.
Regards
Nelson


Hello Nelson

I finish the mini Zahori

the 4k7 pot. is GAIN

the 47 K is Volume

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
Nice pictures and looks similar to my zahori, except that you place both antennas on the same plane. MIne are separeted 2.5 centimeters. The small coil is in front.
How do you connected L1 and L2?
Regards and will shaere soon expirencies, about zahori
Nelson

I made several tests

TV i get 2.50m,much less than with zahori+BFO.

And in my field test i cant get any signal,so this works better for big metals.
Also the BUZZER is not so good,use speaker or headphones yes,more sensitive.
If i touch the grass ZB start sounds,but NOT GIVE ERRATICS,and its boring becouse is very quiet...


Other tests i will inform you.

[mehdi]

I made several tests

TV i get 2.50m,much less than with zahori+BFO.

And in my field test i cant get any signal,so this works better for big metals.
Also the BUZZER is not so good,use speaker or headphones yes,more sensitive.
If i touch the grass ZB start sounds,but NOT GIVE ERRATICS,and its boring becouse is very quiet...


Other tests i will inform you.

Hi Morgan and Nelson
please test it with BC337 instead of BC239 and and 2200uf 50v - 10uf 50v and good quality headphone and test it without antenna at home near tv and please post here the results.
my result for 17" TV is about 6 meter without antenna.

all the best
mehdi

[nelson]

Hi Morgan and Nelson
please test it with BC337 instead of BC239 and and 2200uf 50v - 10uf 50v and good quality headphone and test it without antenna at home near tv and please post here the results.
my result for 17" TV is about 6 meter without antenna.

all the best
mehdi

Interestig expirence mehdi.
Without the antenna, how do get directivity?
Morgan, you got almost same results has my zahori. I think the clue of succes is the antenna and some mods like mehdi said
Regards
Nelson

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan and Nelson
please test it with BC337 instead of BC239 and and 2200uf 50v - 10uf 50v and good quality headphone and test it without antenna at home near tv and please post here the results.
my result for 17" TV is about 6 meter without antenna.

all the best
mehdi

Mini Zahori CORRECTIONS :


1- Eliminate the wire who connect to L1 the BIG LOOP,distance will increase a lot.I can detect the TV on at 6 meters.

2- Use headphones,not the BUZZER,also more sensitive

[Morgan]

Hi Michael
As you said , you couldn’t find long buried metals by PD yet!!!.
Are you find any metallic items by your PD ??? :???:
Best regards.


Hello Aft_

Do you know at what frequency the mini Zahori works ?

Regards

[Morgan]

Hi Michael
As you said , you couldn’t find long buried metals by PD yet!!!.
Are you find any metallic items by your PD ??? :???:
Best regards.


Hello

I know your skill in electronics. Maybe you can help,today i try the ZB in the fields and at some moment i catch Radio Frequency signal RF(music). This happens becouse i remove the wire who connect to BIG LOOP L1,it becomes very sensitive but unfortunatly RF enter the Zahori. I ask you if you have solution,maybe some low resistence in between L1 ?


Regards

[Morgan]

Hello

I know your skill in electronics. Maybe you can help,today i try the ZB in the fields and at some moment i catch Radio Frequency signal RF(music). This happens becouse i remove the wire who connect to BIG LOOP L1,it becomes very sensitive but unfortunatly RF enter the Zahori. I ask you if you have solution,maybe some low resistence in between L1 ?


Regards

Or maybe we can change the 22K for a fixed resistence in the circuit and adapt one resitence filter to L1,maybe a few oHms enough,to detect long and reject radio waves,just ideias...

[Morgan]

Interestig expirence mehdi.
Without the antenna, how do get directivity?
Morgan, you got almost same results has my zahori. I think the clue of succes is the antenna and some mods like mehdi said
Regards
Nelson

No,i´m sure we need this antenna with the sample,the problem is the big L1 connected to pot in circuit not aloud the L2 to have full power.

[aft_72005]

Hello Aft_

Do you know at what frequency the mini Zahori works ?

Regards

Hi Morgan
As I know , mini zahori is broadband receiver without tuning section .I think energy filed is electrostatic and electrostatic field without radiating as frequency , I remember you said long buried metals produced electromagnetic field, so how much frequency emitted for example from gold? Silver ? copper?
Best regards.

[nelson]

On what band was that radio station transmitting, i Mean AM or FM ?
I think to know this is important, to get the correct armonics to build may a good filter.
Regards

Nelson

Hello

I know your skill in electronics. Maybe you can help,today i try the ZB in the fields and at some moment i catch Radio Frequency signal RF(music). This happens becouse i remove the wire who connect to BIG LOOP L1,it becomes very sensitive but unfortunatly RF enter the Zahori. I ask you if you have solution,maybe some low resistence in between L1 ?


Regards

[aft_72005]

Hello

I know your skill in electronics. Maybe you can help,today i try the ZB in the fields and at some moment i catch Radio Frequency signal RF(music). This happens becouse i remove the wire who connect to BIG LOOP L1,it becomes very sensitive but unfortunatly RF enter the Zahori. I ask you if you have solution,maybe some low resistence in between L1 ?


Regards

As I side it is sensitive broadband detector without tuning , if add tuning section
Then rejected radio station , but maybe reject also target signals .
Best regards.