for Carl - NC , gold gun AL 707 or 718

[aft_72005]

Hi Carl - NC

Are you have report about gold gun AL707 or 718 ?

[Carl-NC]

I own a Gold Gun AL718. Couldn't get much out of it, and I've never heard of anyone else who has had success with one. Still, I'd like to get mine into an area where there's more natural gold, and see what it does. Based on what I know of Accurate Locators, I don't expect much of it.

- Carl

[aft_72005]

Hi Carl -N.C.

please upload here some picture from in side it

can you provide report seem as your other articles ?

i am interested that Gold Gun AL718 circuit how it work.

is it tuned low frequency receiver ?

thanks for all the trouble you have taken in the matter.

[jassim]

i'dont have manual the gold gun al707 or foctionne send me manual

[jassim]

my email is isslam428@yahoo.fr thx for help me

[med]

I own a Gold Gun AL718. Couldn't get much out of it, and I've never heard of anyone else who has had success with one. Still, I'd like to get mine into an area where there's more natural gold, and see what it does. Based on what I know of Accurate Locators, I don't expect much of it.

- Carl

i'dont have manual the gold gun al707 or foctionne send me manual

[med]

:) Hi Carl -N.C.

please upload here some picture from in side it

can you provide report seem as your other articles ?

i am interested that Gold Gun AL718 circuit how it work.

is it tuned low frequency receiver ?

thanks for all the trouble you have taken in the matter.

[Carl-NC]

Yeah, I need to dig this thing out and see what it does. Med, I'll try to get a photocopy of the manual made. You could probably get the correct (707) manual from Accurate Locators.

- Carl

[med]

Yeah, I need to dig this thing out and see what it does. Med, I'll try to get a photocopy of the manual made. You could probably get the correct (707) manual from Accurate Locators.

- Carl
thanks carl i am realy need your help so please send me the photocopy of manual

[vcrb]

Carl seems reluctant to say anything about Accurate Locators & even OKM ? Both outfits sell LRLs and questionable equipment. He even allows MINEORO dealers to endorse their products all over his forums. Not one single report on any of these three manufactures and Carl admits he has these locators ? Perhaps Mr. Carl Moreland is being paid by these manufactures? Always have wondered about his agenda???

vcrb

[med]

thanks carl i am realy need your help so please send me the photocopy of manual
hello carl iam still waiting the manual of gold gun al 718 please send me it thank you

[Jonas]

Gold Gun AL718

[aft_72005]

Hi Carl :)
Please upload some picture form inside of gold gun AL718 .
Best regards . :)

[Carl-NC]

The internal circuitry is coated with white paint, so there is nothing to see.

[FC247]

Are there any parts recognizable inside?

[Carl-NC]

Don't remember, I'll pull it back out and take some pics.

[Tim Williams]

I'll open the gold gun I have and see if it has white paint. If not I will post some pictures. I don't remember if it has paint inside or not.

Tim

[Seden]

Tim,

What has been your experience with the Gold Gun?

Randy

[aft_72005]

Hi to all
Tim Williams , I am waiting see more about gold gun.
Carl, thank you.
Any body know about electronic section of gold gun?
Is it ion detector? Or is it long wave receiver ?

[Tim Williams]

Guys I will look at it today. It appears to be in the AM range. I will post some pictures also. The only responce I ever saw was North south line detection. If I turned the unit pointing either to the north or south I get a drop in digital value. Someone sent it to me to play with. He just purchased a mineoro unit. I will have it soon to play with and test.

Tim

[Tim Williams]

Ok I looked at the unit I have here and the model is the 718. The board did not have paint on it so I made a schematic on the board. I need to check it again. I did not get to open the antenna yet. I will out today but will post tonight. I will tell you this. There are 2 jfets, HA17324 and filters. Not much more than that.

Tim

[Tim Williams]

Here is the pictures and schematic. Carl let me know if your is different.

http://lrlman.com/GG.zip

Tim

[Seden]

Tim,

Thank you for going to the trouble in what you produced. Very interesting. Makes me wonder if their detecting the VLF Radio Stations carriers. With enough limiting you can really dig carriers out of the noise with a good filter on the output to clean up the harmonics. I've had real good luck using them on my loop antennas for the 160-190 KC license free band.

Do you have an inductance meter so the resonant frequency can be found out? This is the key obviously to seeing what the designer had in mind,but I'm betting on VLF beacons like the WADI receivers.

What say ye Carl?

Randy

[FC247]

thank you for the pictures and circuit description Tim Williams. Very good information.

[aft_72005]

Hi Tim Williams :)
Ok, thank you. it is very good reverse engineering also you working fast.
Please upload more pictures , specially from coil section .
Are you test it in real ? can you find gold and silver with it?
How much coil inductance ?
Best regards . :)

[FC247]

This can really find gold? Did you test?

[Geo]

Hi Tim:) . Very good work. Gongratulation.
As i see in the photo of GG S1 must be with 3 positions (on-off-on) -(T..B..L-D), but at the schematic is 2 position (on-on). Who is the right?
Any info about coil ???
Thanks
Best Regards:)

[Tim Williams]

It is 3 position switch. I will open the coil up soon.

Tim

[Carl-NC]

My GG looks exactly like Tim's, same PCB & components. However, mine is still covered in white gunk. May take me some time to get it cleaned out.

My recollection on some info I read some time in the way past is that the Gold Gun used ELF currents generated from the old submarine comms program. When that was shut down some years ago, Accurate Locators added a transmitter to the Gold Gun, and called it the "DLS." You can see one on eBay, right now, right here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330161872050).

Thanks for the schematic, Tim.

- Carl

[Seden]

Carl,

I once had a paper from a Geophysical publication that talked about using 60 hz for exploration away from surburban areas. Couldn't we use the european 50 hertz in the USA,should have no problem picking up the signal I would think with all the hundreds of miles of powerlines over there and many megawatts.

Randy

[Tim Williams]

I will update the schematic tonight with the coil info. They had a 1/2"x14" ferrite rod with a coil wound in the center. The coil had a tap on it that went to ground shown on the schematic. I have the values and will post tonight.

Tim

[Tim Williams]

Ok I updated the zip file with the information on the coil and picture. It did not survive the disassembling of the pvc! No lost.

Tim

[Qiaozhi]

Ok I updated the zip file with the information on the coil and picture. It did not survive the disassembling of the pvc! No lost.

Tim
I think you forgot to attach the file.

[Tim Williams]

No it's in the post I made before. But I will add it here.

http://lrlman.com/GG.zip

Tim

[Seden]

Tim,

That's interesting that they had the dipole crosswise to the direction where you would think the rod was pointing to. I would of made it so the direction of reception would of been straight ahead. I guess I'm thinking like an Amatuer Radio guy instead of an LRL MFR.

Well that settles that mystery and too bad the Navy disabled the ELF transmitters.

Randy

[Tim Williams]

The signal that was needed to use the gun is no longer being transmitted as I understand it. Because of that reason a ELF transmitter was sold. I'm not saying the gold gun never worked.
The unit was sent to me from a friend and asked me to see what was inside. The files show what was inside. I saw the gold gun used in Mexico with bad results. I'm not for or against the gold gun. Just thought after all this time some would like to see what made it tick.

Tim

[Jonas]

next variant

[J_Player]

I saw the gold gun used in Mexico with bad results.Hi LRLMAN,

When you were in Mexico, did you see any other LRLs with good results?

J_P

[Tim Williams]

The Gold gun was the only unit they had there. That trip turned out to be a mess! It was the first and last time for me. We were followed and recorded from a ways off. Pictures were taken of us. The reason I know this is a fellow LRL manufacturer told me he saw pictures and heard recording of us talking. It's a long story!

Tim

[Seden]

Jonas,

That's just what I suggested regarding the use of VLF Navy stations. Thank you for posting the schematic.

Randy

[aft_72005]

next variant


Hi Jonas :)
Thank you for circuit . are you have success in practice ?
did you be able find gold with it ?
regards. :)

[Max]

Hi,
nice schematic... but how can this "thing" find e.g. gold ???

For me it can't does that.

What I understand of this circuit is that there are two opposite wounds on ferrite rods... like one would see e..g. in a gradiometer but with magnetic hi-perm. core, then a "filter" or "decoupler", then amplifier, then another decoupler and another amplifier !

Does it find gold ?

For me if another "version" of "anomaly detector": this is magnetic , where zahori is electrostatic.

That's so, zahori react to E-field and E-compoent of EM radiations, this react to local B spot variations or B-component of EM radiations.

If you use it near a power line you'll see the ufo ! :lol: Like with zahori.

You probably have to use it from E-W direction cause N-S movements will pick variation of coupled Earth magnetic field.

Unit is probably subject to ULF/ELF (if present) detection... e.g. low frequency modulation of 50/60Hz , ULF due to navy subarine comm. emissions, ULF due to atmosperics phenomenon etc etc etc

But then ? Is it an advantage for you ? Don't understand. :rolleyes:

Any big spot variation of Earth magnetic field will be detected by movements of rods axis near the hi-gradient area, but can you pinpoint anything that way ?

How can it just pick few pT variations due to gold and not nT ones due to e.g. big iron stuff in ground ?

For me cannot find gold, just gold or precious metals, but will find any power line, any railway emission, any huge scrap of iron, any lightening etc etc

Nice schematic, yes, have a differential fet configuration, hi-impedance...
but for me is just another zahori that serve nothing. :lol:

Best regards,
Max

[unknown]

hi mr.Carl-NC
please if you have A pictures for gold gun AL718 send to me i have one but maybe my device is missed some parts
thanks:D
my english is so bad:frown:

[digital logic]

THE LRLMAN GIVED THIS:
http://lrlman.com/GG.zip

If you still have problem write and i'll post here other photos.

[Qiaozhi]

THE LRLMAN GIVED THIS:
http://lrlman.com/GG.zip

If you still have problem write and i'll post here other photos.
There's also this schematic.

[unknown]

please you can give me more pics for gold gun AL718

[unknown]

no buddy can translation user manual for gold gun al718 to arabic
please help me....

[roberts]

Eh...this schematic tell us only that GG has pretty similar phylosophy to Zahori, "RObertoro" etc.etc. almost every other similar device i saw.
What we have here? Pretty simple, direct receiver...and nothing else.
Coils are defining some "band" to be received. At output there should be present som mum,hum,"schhhhh..weeeouu,weeooou..." and nothing usefull.
If man put VU at the out...scale will turn respectfully to its sensitivity...
Further some improvements can be done to it in same manner ivconic did with Zahori - much better audio. Mothing else.
But what is the point? Modded or not it is unusefull both ways.
You can only receive mums and hums and nothing else. Unless somebody give some proofs that Gold (or any other metal) is producing simillar hums and mums. Even than...:razz:

[superfreq]

Hallo to everyone! I have some questions on this machine!:rolleyes:
First of all, does anyone know for sure if the 2 coils are opposite wounded or same direction?
And second, i wonder if it's easy for someone to explain me about the "Null Line" between a target and the gun. What's this exactly? I mean what explains this phenomenon?
Best regards

[g-sani]

I have exactly the same questions as superfreq.
Waiting for answers as well.

[Geo]

I have exactly the same questions as superfreq.
Waiting for answers as well.

Γιωργο επειδη ειναι πηνια μονο δεκτη δεν υπαρχει λογος να ειναι αντεστραμενα. Περαν τουτου ομως εαν αποφασισεις να το κατασκευασεις το να γυρισεις τα ακρα ενος τυλιγματος αντιθετα δεν ειναι τιποτα.
Κρινοντας απο τα γραφομενα στην κατευθυνση του στοχου αντι να εχουμε ενα ισχυρο σημα εχουμε αδυνατισμα η και μηδενισμο του σηματος. Αυτο εννοει σαν "Null".
Φιλικα........:)

[Fred]

Hi Geo,
So it could be the same in PD ferrite circuit, so they said gap is critical.
After all it´s just like the gold gun...?
regards,
Fred.

[Geo]

Hi Geo,
So it could be the same in PD ferrite circuit, so they said gap is critical.
After all it´s just like the gold gun...?
regards,
Fred.

Hi Fred:)

Don't worry. The Time will show:)
regards:)

[hillman]

Hi Fred:)

Don't worry. The Time will show:)
regards:)
hi Geo
you had said that 2 LRL instruments realy works, can you tell us which one?:help:

[g-sani]

Thank you Geo I am going to experiment doing it.After all it doesn't look expensive.

[superfreq]

Good morning to all of you!:)
Mr Tim Williams, i would like to ask you again about the coil antenna of the GG. Is it possible 4u to say if the coils are opposite wounded? As you understand it's very crucial for the circuit explanation.
Thanks in advance;)

[yanis]

You are wrong about Carl, He is the real Mcoy, no one can put him in their pocket.

[g-sani]

No one said diferent I suppose.The thing is that everybody is looking for that small thing that will give us the hind in a new world of treasure hunting.
My self just thought that it might be here in a simple machine as gold gun is.

[Geo]

No one said diferent I suppose.The thing is that everybody is looking for that small thing that will give us the hind in a new world of treasure hunting.
My self just thought that it might be here in a simple machine as gold gun is.

Γιωργο οπως βλεπεις κανεις δεν ασχολειται σοβαρα με αυτο το μηχανακι. Τι θελεις και επιμενεις????? Παρακολουθα τον Guard και τον Jeg και εαν κανουν κατι τοτε προσπαθησε. Αλλιως μην σπαταλας τον χρονο σου. Ειναι πολυτιμος
:)

[g-sani]

Γραφονται πολλα στα ελληνικα φορουμ τελευταια και επειδη το κοστος ειναι χαμηλο ειπα ας το δουμε και αυτο.Αυτος ειναι ο λογος φιλε Geo.Αληθεια εκανες τιποτε με το ικονος;
Υ.Γ.Ελπιζω Γιωργο να μην παρεξηγουνται οι αλλοι που γραφουμε στα ελληνικα εδω μεσα.

[Geo]

Γραφονται πολλα στα ελληνικα φορουμ τελευταια και επειδη το κοστος ειναι χαμηλο ειπα ας το δουμε και αυτο.Αυτος ειναι ο λογος φιλε Geo.Αληθεια εκανες τιποτε με το ικονος;
Υ.Γ.Ελπιζω Γιωργο να μην παρεξηγουνται οι αλλοι που γραφουμε στα ελληνικα εδω μεσα.

Hi.
Sorry for Greek but i must tell something about a Greek Forum and it is a little difficult to me with my bad English:(
Αφορμη ψαχνουν να μου τα χωσουν τελευταια.
Πιθανον την Κυριακη να βγω εξω για ενα τσεκαρισμα του Iconos. Εαν γινει θα δημοσιοποιηθει σιγουρα και στο Geotech και στο Coinsmania.
Ο ντορος που γινεται γυρω απο το γκολντ Γκαν ειναι μονομερης εαν προσεξες.... η τουλαχιστον καπως ετσι.
Οι φερριτες εχουν καποια μυστικα αλλα περαν τουτου ολο το κυκλωμα ειναι ενας δεκτης πολυ χαμηλων συχνοτητων και τιποτα αλλο. Αυτος ειναι ο λογος που ειμαι αρνητικος μαζι του.
Αυτα... Τα λεμε:)

[g-sani]

Thank you Geo for your reply.Wish you all the luck while treasure hunting.
We are looking forward for your results testing such LRL's.
I think your help will be valueable to everybody.

[Geo]

Thanks g-sani
My regards:)

[goldmaniac]

Hi.
Sorry for Greek but i must tell something about a Greek Forum and it is a little difficult to me with my bad English:(
Αφορμη ψαχνουν να μου τα χωσουν τελευταια.
Πιθανον την Κυριακη να βγω εξω για ενα τσεκαρισμα του Iconos. Εαν γινει θα δημοσιοποιηθει σιγουρα και στο Geotech και στο Coinsmania.
Ο ντορος που γινεται γυρω απο το γκολντ Γκαν ειναι μονομερης εαν προσεξες.... η τουλαχιστον καπως ετσι.
Οι φερριτες εχουν καποια μυστικα αλλα περαν τουτου ολο το κυκλωμα ειναι ενας δεκτης πολυ χαμηλων συχνοτητων και τιποτα αλλο. Αυτος ειναι ο λογος που ειμαι αρνητικος μαζι του.
Αυτα... Τα λεμε:)

να σας τα χωσουν να ησυχασετε πριβε το κανατε λαμογια:razz::razz:

[Geo]

να σας τα χωσουν να ησυχασετε πριβε το κανατε λαμογια:razz::razz:

Sorry a friend from Greece:)
Xaxaxaxaxα ολα τα ειχαμε εσυ μας ελειπες:lol:
Εφτασε και εδω η χαρη σου???? Καιρος να αλλαζουμε site????:razz::lol::razz::lol:
Bye:)

[Tim Williams]

Hurry before it's too late.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Accurate-Locator-Mark-II-Find-Treasure-Faster-Whites_W0QQitemZ290210512180QQihZ019QQcategoryZ149 55QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tim

[Geo]

A friend is interesting
Thanks Tim:)

[g-sani]

Ohh my God goldmaniac you are unbelievable!
Did you use your "L rods" to find us over here?
You better use them to find some gold my friend instead of messing around.
Hahahahahaahaaaaa!!!!!!!

[Geo]

Ohh my God goldmaniac you are unbelievable!
Did you use your "L rods" to find us over here?
You better use them to find some gold my friend instead of messing around.
Hahahahahaahaaaaa!!!!!!!

Where is goldmaniac ?????

[Geo]

Hurry before it's too late.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Accurate-Locator-Mark-II-Find-Treasure-Faster-Whites_W0QQitemZ290210512180QQihZ019QQcategoryZ149 55QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tim

Hi Tim:)
Do you know who is the difference between AL707 and AL718
Regards:)

[Tim Williams]

No I don't. Understand I could not get the gold gun I had to work. But that may be because the signal was not being transmitted. This unit has a transmitter. I can't say if it will work or not. I just wanted to let everyone know there was one on ebay.

regards,

Tim

[g-sani]

One main difference that I know for sure is that ferites are longer on the 718 model.You electronics must know the difference that this thing makes.

[aft_72005]

Hi all :)
Thanking so much from LRLMAN for reverse engineering of gold gun.
Anybody built this circuit ?
Anybody work with it?
Is it work really ?
Best regards.

[nelson]

Hi aft_72005, this is my next proyect, so for now i m collecting all information about gold gun
Regards
Nelson

Hi all :)
Thanking so much from LRLMAN for reverse engineering of gold gun.
Anybody built this circuit ?
Anybody work with it?
Is it work really ?
Best regards.

[Qiaozhi]

Hi aft_72005, this is my next proyect, so for now i m collecting all information about gold gun
Regards
Nelson
When you have completed the project, and discovered that it doesn't work as advertised, please publish the results here for everyone to see.

You must also be careful to use double-blind testing, in case you manage to fool yourself that it's actually working. ;)

[aft_72005]

Hi aft_72005, this is my next proyect, so for now i m collecting all information about gold gun
Regards
Nelson


Hi Nelson :)
:thumb:
I waiting for result …………………………….
Best regards.

[Max]

Hi aft_72005, this is my next proyect, so for now i m collecting all information about gold gun
Regards
Nelson

Hi Nelson,
the schematics I remember there is... but what about coils ? and ferrites ? and ferrites gap tuning ?

The problem is that some informations are not complete to make a perfect clone I think so you must guess about some stuff...

Anyway, I remember also that LRLMAN reported the pistol don't work for him... :lol: so if doesn't work for him (LRLMAN ! dang! ) why do you think it will work for you ??? :razz:

No, no... ok... please continue... try to make/test it and report here results... I will be glad of your success if will happen! ;)
(though I dubt really it will be)

Kind regards,
Max

[nelson]

Ok friends, yes i agree with all your comments, but i think i must give a try to it.
I m very courius about this device, so why not to give a try
For shure when i finish a unit, i ll post all about my bad or good expirencies.
Kind regards to all
Nelson


Hi Nelson,
the schematics I remember there is... but what about coils ? and ferrites ? and ferrites gap tuning ?

The problem is that some informations are not complete to make a perfect clone I think so you must guess about some stuff...

Anyway, I remember also that LRLMAN reported the pistol don't work for him... :lol: so if doesn't work for him (LRLMAN ! dang! ) why do you think it will work for you ??? :razz:

No, no... ok... please continue... try to make/test it and report here results... I will be glad of your success if will happen! ;)
(though I dubt really it will be)

Kind regards,
Max

[Agraz]

Hello Tim:

Yes the gun work, I check the gun AL707 in one silver treasure 50kg., one day I send the pics to you.The gun system work only in big targets. :)

[Esteban]

Hello Tim:

Yes the gun work, I check the gun AL707 in one silver treasure 50kg., one day I send the pics to you.The gun system work only in big targets. :)

The schematic was posted in forum (if I remember well, by manufacturer). Anybody build and test?

[Agraz]

Hello:
I build that model Gold Gun AL718, diagram post for Tim Williams, and work well, but is best put a transmitter with rods in ground, I dont try it.

[Geo]

The schematic was posted in forum (if I remember well, by manufacturer). Anybody build and test?

Hi Esteban.
Many people constructed it at Greece, without results:lol::lol:
Few weeks ago, when i went to Olympus for treasure hunting, there was two people who had a GG clone. No results. Only the Alonso's PD:)

Regards:)

[apogonos]

Λογικό εκεί που ήμασταν δεν υπήρχε κανένα σήμα χαμηλής για να έχουν ένδειξη αυτά τα μηχανήματα, ειδικά στο πρώτο εκκλησάκι έπρεπε να έχει ισχυρή ένδειξη.

[Geo]

Λογικό εκεί που ήμασταν δεν υπήρχε κανένα σήμα χαμηλής για να έχουν ένδειξη αυτά τα μηχανήματα, ειδικά στο πρώτο εκκλησάκι έπρεπε να έχει ισχυρή ένδειξη.

Ναι αλλα στο δευτερο???

[apogonos]

:nono::nono::nono: Στο πρώτο σημείο έπρεπε να χτυπήσει σαν τρελό Γιώργο, εκεί είχε πολύ περισσότερο σήμα για τo GG, σήμα υποεδάφειο δεν είχε στην περιοχή.

[g-sani]

:nono::nono::nono:
I don't think that anybody of all these people that made these clones can give a schematic for gg's 707 antenna.
A lot has been talked about 707's antenna in all greek forums and nobody came up having this info.
Well it is obvious that nobody has ever made anything close to the original gg AL707 and this is the only truth.
To understand the working principle of a detector doesn't mean that you are able to build it as well.

P.S.I just remembered myself asking over here in geotech for help to build 707's antenna.
Here is my post and check it out:antenna of gold gun 707
More than 1000 views and no reply at all.

[Geo]

:nono::nono::nono:
I don't think that anybody of all these people that made these clones can give a schematic for gg's 707 antenna.
A lot has been talked about 707's antenna in all greek forums and nobody came up having this info.
Well it is obvious that nobody has ever made anything close to the original gg AL707 and this is the only truth.
To understand the working principle of a detector doesn't mean that you are able to build it as well.

P.S.I just remembered myself asking over here in geotech for help to build 707's antenna.
Here is my post and check it out:antenna of gold gun 707
More than 1000 views and no reply at all.

Nothing special.
From the center two opposite windings
But ...:frown::frown::frown: paparia

[apogonos]

:nono::nono::nono: Geo
that is the antena of the 718 and no 707,
what does it mean paparia? :lol::lol::lol:

[ALEX.356]

:nono:
Dear GEO,
kindly do not answer to Apogonos Leontos Sgourou what it means PAPARIA.

He can live without this knowledge. Anyway they are technical terms for the very few and very specialists on Marconi theory...

Errwsthe kaloi mou Maxmouthdes,

Kind regards,

Alex.356:D:D:D

[WM6]

paparia

[Esteban]

:nono:
Dear GEO,
kindly do not answer to Apogonos Leontos Sgourou what it means PAPARIA.

He can live without this knowledge. Anyway they are technical terms for the very few and very specialists on Marconi theory...

Errwsthe kaloi mou Maxmouthdes,

Kind regards,

Alex.356:D:D:D

Micronations and cybernations... :lol: But, of course, Paparia is denomination of many things...

[g-sani]

Paparia is something like fried onion balls but whith curly hair on them.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Geo]

:nono::nono::nono: Geo
that is the antena of the 718 and no 707,
what does it mean paparia? :lol::lol::lol:

As i know there was difference only at the ferrite dimensions...

[Geo]

:nono:
Dear GEO,
kindly do not answer to Apogonos Leontos Sgourou what it means PAPARIA.

He can live without this knowledge. Anyway they are technical terms for the very few and very specialists on Marconi theory...

Errwsthe kaloi mou Maxmouthdes,

Kind regards,

Alex.356:D:D:D

Hi Alex.....
where are you maxmouti.....:lol:

[Astrodetect]

Hi all
From what I have studied in the schematic of the GG, this detector has 2 ferrites sitting opposite of each other, and when they are in line with a signal they are mixed and they null, but only when the antenna is in line with the strongest signal, that is how it works.
Also it is picking up the magnetic component of VLF signals and currents in the earth.

[Agraz]

Hello:

Yes the model 707 have only one rod ferrite 1/2 inch, the other model 718 two ferrite.
The ferrite is difficult to find, I buy one in company, California, U.S.A.
and in the stormwise.com are other, 1/2 x 12 inch.

I experiment with diferent ferrites, small, etc, and with small rod I listen Am radio, the gun is a simple receiver? or what.

yes I know is better work with low freq. this penetrate better in ground.
and I think build a transmitter to gun, the company say GG work 7.5 khz.

some day put in my yard, detector Garret and I receive the signal 20 meters away....

[g-sani]

Does anyone knows the operating frequencies of both 707 and 718?
Each one of them has a three position switch on top.
Is there a common frequency to both?

[Agraz]

Hello, the gold gun Al718 are more sensitive for smaller targets.

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[alnamr]

Hi to all
I made this device but there was no sound except confusion:lol::lol:

See photos:nono::nono:

[alnamr]

see

[alnamr]

Its failed gold gun 718

[goldmaniac]

707 ????

http://stormwise.com/index.html

[detectoman]

hello, all lrl is very dificultous for final put to point equilibre
these involucre an science of comprension on beat waves, this an narrow point of distinct propiertes
the lrl is very dependent of conditions
is the alonso science
experimentador, need equal to world complex alonso mind
isnt easy

[detectoman]

isnt easy but possible
only demential patiente, own of alonso

[detectoman]

whitout esteban guidances, nafthy never can we today obtained, thanks to alonso and esteban!

[Agraz]

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this is simple drawing,,, I work in diagram Gold Gun AL707.

[aft_72005]

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this is simple drawing,,, I work in diagram Gold Gun AL707.


Hi Agraz
This is good news you having original goldgun now .http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_10.gif
If you having oscilloscope Please do this experiment . connect loop
Coil to probe , and near ferrite rod , power on gold gun . please
Saying what you will see .
Best regards.

[epitopios]

Hi Agraz
is it possible for some imformation about the antenna of Gold Gun ??
http://i.imgur.com/yvd0G.jpg
regards , epitopios

[WM6]

Hi Agraz
is it possible for some imformation about the antenna of Gold Gun ??

regards , epitopios



Here you are:

[epitopios]

Hi WM6
I Know and I have that
I also know from another schematic that :
http://i.imgur.com/maEyP.jpg
I asked about mH and Ohms for each spiral
regards , epitopios

[Agraz]

Hello aft_72005, in this moment I not have osc. next I say what is the result.

Hello epitopios, sorry later I wrong, isnt 25 Ohms, is: 26.2 Ohms in red wires, the Ohms to the center, black wire to red cables is: 13.4, and 13.4 the same to the other side.
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[WM6]

Hi WM6
I Know and I have that
I also know from another schematic that :

I asked about mH and Ohms for each spiral
regards , epitopios

Hi Epitopios,

you have all data:

- lenght of ferite rods (38,5mm each)
- diameter of ferite rods: (13mm)
- number of turns (337 turns each)
- diameter of wire (0.2mm)

you do not need more data.

If you have different ferrite rods (say 10mm in diameter) you can use lenghts of about 40mm and about 350 turns of the same wire. It is not so important because basic tunning to your (transmitter) receiving frequency you can make by capacitor and only fine tunning ob directivity by precise coil moving and ferrite rods distance. You can forget to mH and Ohms.

[Agraz]

Hi, WM6, Yes, the G. Gun is only a directional receiver,,, one day I experiment with a small

ferrite, and you dont believe, but I recieve local AM transmisions!!!

[WM6]

Hi, WM6, Yes, the G. Gun is only a directional receiver,,, one day I experiment with a small

ferrite, and you dont believe, but I recieve local AM transmisions!!!

I believe you, vicinity of strong transmitter, no internal bandpass filters, low antenna Q (mean work on harmonics too) and you can easy get AM LW or MW receiver.

[vali]

Hi aft72005 you that this gold gun
Page Mdhyd the gold gun show is already
By the company to market
Was supplied
Additionally Karmknd

Best Arvzvha
vali:):)

[aft_72005]

Hi aft72005 you that this gold gun
Page Mdhyd the gold gun show is already
By the company to market
Was supplied
Additionally Karmknd

Best Arvzvha
vali:):)


Hi vali
Couldn't understand your opinion , but no , I didn’t build goldgun yet , http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/aiw/no.gif
I am busy with other work ,and my first free time will begin with goldgun .http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/aiw/clever-man2.gif
Having idea about gold gun http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/aiw/wink.gif

[vali]

Hi vali
Couldn't understand your opinion , but no , I didn’t build goldgun yet , http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/aiw/no.gif
I am busy with other work ,and my first free time will begin with goldgun .http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/aiw/clever-man2.gif
Having idea about gold gun http://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/aiw/wink.gif





Hello Mr aft8)
Thanks for the answer. You hope to be successful.:cool:
Qrbant vali;)

[mahinda]

hi..
i make LA 718 pd gold gun circuit diagrams but not work . can you give ma advise ? please tell me how is tune this circuit .
thank you
mahinda (from Sri Lanka)

[yanis]

You have to Boil 1/2 lb. Mexican Oregano in Distilled water for 45 minutes low heat, let the mix cool down strain out the oregano leftovers and insert the boards into liquid over night, Do not discard the liquid as you will need it to do the same with the antenna that way board and antenna are paired.
Regards
Yanis

[Qiaozhi]

You have to Boil 1/2 lb. Mexican Oregano in Distilled water for 45 minutes low heat, let the mix cool down strain out the oregano leftovers and insert the boards into liquid over night, Do not discard the liquid as you will need it to do the same with the antenna that way board and antenna are paired.
Regards
Yanis
Naughty .....
I bet that gets lost in translation. ;)

[Agraz]

New Gold Gun:
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